Bluegirls journey to ar*e island

Hi all, just been reading through all your diaries, and writing one seems like such a fantastic idea. Threefold I guess, motivation for me, motivation for you and to help me concentrate on the job in hand rather than thinking about what I can't have.

I'm on day 2 of sole source, 5 ft 10 so having 4 products a day. I'm thinking about food lots at the moment, and wondering how many different types of hunger there are. So far I think I've had 3. Head, mouth and belly and to be honest the head hunger fels the worst.

So if I can work through the head hunger then I'll be ok? Has anyone else had that? I'm guessing it's about feeling deprived, or even just getting used to a different way of eating. A new way forward.

Thanks for readings and keeping me company - K xx

i think it's normal to get food obsessions, and to feel deprived when you think of (or see / smell) things you can't have. in my first week i started a little notebook to write down all the things i wanted to eat, so i knew i could have them all when i was at goal. three months later that notebook has one thing written in it. dim sum. it just stopped being so important after a while. like food was behind glass or laminated or something. just not really for me. it does get better.

Thank you, last night I made my partner let me smell his food -pizza but it got a little out of hand when I asked to smell his nuts - salted pea nuts!

Today I feel better, more positive, but the challenge of being away from home for the week working is looming. I've more tetra packs in my case than clothes - how we change in such a short time eh?

K x

Keytosis

My I pad wants to call it key toss!

Does this look right for day 3? Oh hang on I can't upload an attachment.... Sorry chaps cany show you the colour but it's somewhere in the middle. Def pink, not quite purple. Is that what I'm looking for?

K x

Ps anyone know how to attach? Is it I haven't posted enough?

when posting click 'go advanced' and then use 'manage attachments'.

But pink is good. ketostix, however, are of limited use. if you don't feel as hungry as you should, and/or it's past the first week and you've stuck to plan, then you will be in ketosis. the sticks vary in sensitivity, eve within a single batch, can spoil if they're not kept perfectly, and results vary from one person to another, and at different times of day.

as a very rough rule, the darker it goes, the higher concentration of ketones in your blood. you want some to bde present, but more doesn't = greater weightloss. the amount you drink and how long since you last had a wee will affect concentration anyway.

Thanks spangles but it doesn't give me the option to attach a file just a URL, but I'm grateful for your advice.

Day 3 done, arrived at my hotel, tetra packs bottled water and will power at the ready

Oooh Good luck - you may find it easier being away to get in the zone

Keep us posted.

N

Thanks all

Day 4 was tough. Away from home, busy day at work and starving by 12. I say starving but I'm not sure i actually mean that. There were chocolates, mince pies and hot buttered toast around me, not to mention the smell of sweet latte from the girl next to me. What I think I was feeling was sorry for myself, until of course the angel on my shoulder gave the devil on my other a good talking to.

Sure it would have been good to indulge, but how bad would I feel now? How much would I have let myself down? How long would the gratification of food lasted until I wanted more and more?

I don't want to sound like I've an eating disorder, but I can eat, I can get out of control, I can binge terribly and suddenly, with food out of bounds that feeling seems less. I guess it's a bit like giving up smoking, you have to do cold turkey, and maybe that's why this diet will work for me


I'd be really interested in anyone else feels/ felt like this

K x

bluegirl said:

Thanks all

Day 4 was tough. Away from home, busy day at work and starving by 12. I say starving but I'm not sure i actually mean that. There were chocolates, mince pies and hot buttered toast around me, not to mention the smell of sweet latte from the girl next to me. What I think I was feeling was sorry for myself, until of course the angel on my shoulder gave the devil on my other a good talking to.

Sure it would have been good to indulge, but how bad would I feel now? How much would I have let myself down? How long would the gratification of food lasted until I wanted more and more?

I don't want to sound like I've an eating disorder, but I can eat, I can get out of control, I can binge terribly and suddenly, with food out of bounds that feeling seems less. I guess it's a bit like giving up smoking, you have to do cold turkey, and maybe that's why this diet will work for me

I'd be really interested in anyone else feels/ felt like this

K x

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My binging is out of control too, I believe it is an eating disorder but it isn't recognised by the health professionals! If you made your self sick afterwards you would get put in an eating clinic surrounded by professionals to support you but because we don't, us chunks are just left to our own devices, labelled obese and have to pay for the pleasure of r

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Thank goodness I'm not the only one - and if there's two of us there must be more!

How many days in are you Holly?

Binge Eating Disorder is an eating disorder. Binge eating disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But you're right in that its recognition and treatment pales in comparison to anorexia and bulimia. I suffered very badly from it seven years ago, and have been fighting the hangover behaviours from it ever since. To whit - i had to lie on my medical form for CD as they won't take anyone with an eating disorder. Now, when you think about it, many many long-term obese people have these behaviours: compulsions / addictions... disordered eating. And i'd say SS particularly appeals to people in that mindset - who are attracted by the complete break from food. I'd say there's a hell of a lot of Binge Eating Disorder sufferers on Cambridge - they just haven't been diagnosed.

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Thank goodness I'm not the only one - and if there's two of us there must be more!

How many days in are you Holly?

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Day 5 today and going strong! How's about you pumpkin? Xx

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spangles said:

Binge Eating Disorder is an eating disorder. Binge eating disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But you're right in that its recognition and treatment pales in comparison to anorexia and bulimia. I suffered very badly from it seven years ago, and have been fighting the hangover behaviours from it ever since. To whit - i had to lie on my medical form for CD as they won't take anyone with an eating disorder. Now, when you think about it, many many long-term obese people have these behaviours: compulsions / addictions... disordered eating. And i'd say SS particularly appeals to people in that mindset - who are attracted by the complete break from food. I'd say there's a hell of a lot of Binge Eating Disorder sufferers on Cambridge - they just haven't been diagnosed.

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Exactly! Obesity is a bigger problem than anorexia yet the only treatment they offer are pills that make you sh it yourself in tesco ( yes im speaking from experience lol)

Only downside is im smoking like a chimney at the min

Was feelig a bit naff after watching cake boss ( yeh I know I do t know why I did it) but the dogs are snoring on my knee ad looking v cute so that's cheered me up!

Found a fab saying on tinternet.....

Don't reward your self with food, you are not a dog

Hahaha!


Xxxxx

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Spangles - thank you for the link, and making me feel like I've found my home. Everything on that list on wiki sounds like me. I thought, as I had always been told, that I was just greedy.

Holly - I'm om day 4 and surviving ok, love the quote, just need to work out what a goddess rewards herself with lol

Xx

from a clinical perspective, the problem is tat anorexia and bulimia have a significant risk of death within one or two years. while obesity is a killer, it takes decades.

medical treatment of overeating is almost entirely ridiculous. it takes very little to imagine people in 100 years looking at our obesity treatments, from dieting, through orlistat to weightloss surgery, and being horrified. overeating is a psychological and hormonal problem (have a read up on grehlin and leptin) - taking a purely biomechanical approach to it is blindly treating the symptoms, but not the causes. and it doesn't work. healthy eating advice is great - i know loads about nutrition - but behavioural disorders do not pay heed to rational thought. I was prescribed orlistat, and all there seemed to be for me to eat was veg and carbs. I don't need encouraging to eat carbs. in two weeks on the pills i gained 10lbs. people find ways to overeat after weightloss surgery, and regain.

i have no great faith that CD is a long term solution for me. From where i am, i have lots of very clear thoughts about food... but i know it won't be that simple. so when i finish i will pay out privately for psychotherapy. it may or may not work, but i reckon it's my best shot.

you are not greedy! - please read up on leptin, and leptin resistance in obese people. your neurotransmitters never get a signal to stop eating, until you feel physical discomfort (too late!).

leptin was discovered in 1996, i think - and some doctors may not even know about it... but there's no excuse that obesity specialists aren't telling obese patients this. your body won't tell you to stop - you need to be mindful.

spangles said:

Binge Eating Disorder is an eating disorder. Binge eating disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But you're right in that its recognition and treatment pales in comparison to anorexia and bulimia. I suffered very badly from it seven years ago, and have been fighting the hangover behaviours from it ever since. To whit - i had to lie on my medical form for CD as they won't take anyone with an eating disorder. Now, when you think about it, many many long-term obese people have these behaviours: compulsions / addictions... disordered eating. And i'd say SS particularly appeals to people in that mindset - who are attracted by the complete break from food. I'd say there's a hell of a lot of Binge Eating Disorder sufferers on Cambridge - they just haven't been diagnosed.

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By definition, CD SS IS an eating dissorder in intself! Rigid eating patterns, obsession over weight...for people with those kind of tendencies (like myself) then I think it's a very attractive diet. I honestly admit to not doing well on unrestricted diets like Slimming world, I cant take the grazing, the all you can eat type of eating. I honestly think I will stay restrictive all of my life BUT - I too have a history of binge eating - if you read the begining of my diary you will see it in black and white.

Now, however, I totally see it's either head hunger or heart hunger. Mostly for me it's the latter, followed by the former, followed by the latter, I used to binge to try and break that up....not any more though

You will be fine - heart and head hunger usually respond to you being kind to yourself, so tell your inner critic to take a bloomin hike if they come and get you...

N

bluegirl said:

Thank goodness I'm not the only one - and if there's two of us there must be more!

How many days in are you Holly?

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Day 5 xx

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