Slendertone (& some eye candy for the ladies)

[howdy-doody]

As I posted on the LT last night I did 2 x 30 minutes on 90 intensity

've dug out my slendertone belt & strapped it on & boy have I forgotten how it works you

I've not had it on since my pancreatitis & my gall bladder removal op but should be OK now....

I can highly recommend it as a toner / fat shifter

Here's a pic* of what it looks like in action... (ladies - be prepared to drool now...)

* pic not of me (yet )

 

[judimac]

Sorry but this won't shift fat! For that you need to be doing full body exercises! If it worked they wouldn't have to advertise it! Come on Justin! Give us chapter and verse!

 

[tryer]

ha ha aa
judi is right, it will tone muscle but wont shift fat.
thanks for the post though, DROOOOOOOLLLLLL (at the male body... actually a the female too as i will be like that soooon)

ps
WHERE ARE YOU JUSTN??

 

[howdy-doody]

I am using it in CONJUNCTION with other exercises

My daily routine is

3 miles x trainer @ 6.5 miles p/h pace & every 5th minute sprinting flat out for 30 seconds
4 x 50 butterfly presses
4 x 50 shoulder pulls
4 x 20 arm curls
4 x 20 high intensity inverted oblique pulls per side
4 x 20 high intensity inverted sit ups
4 x 10 leg lifts (up / down / open / hold) for the abs
4 x 20 chest presses
10 mins steamroom
10 lengths breast stroke
10 lengths front crawl
10 mins sauna
15 mins jacuzzi

then back home & whack the slendertone on for 30 mins at a time while watching TV...

That do ya ?

 

[tryer]

I am using it in CONJUNCTION with other exercises

My daily routine is

3 miles x trainer @ 6.5 miles p/h pace & every 5th minute sprinting flat out for 30 seconds
4 x 50 butterfly presses
4 x 50 shoulder pulls
4 x 20 arm curls
4 x 20 high intensity inverted oblique pulls per side
4 x 20 high intensity inverted sit ups
4 x 10 leg lifts (up / down / open / hold) for the abs
4 x 20 chest presses
10 mins steamroom
10 lengths breast stroke
10 lengths front crawl
10 mins sauna
15 mins jacuzzi

then back home & whack the slendertone on for 30 mins at a time while watching TV...

That do ya ?

yep that do mi !!!
i use mine as well at home (the shorts), and when driving to work the abs belt.

and yes i do combine it with total body muscle exercises.

 

[judimac]

Is there any clinical evidence that slendertone works?

 

[dannymc20]

no way. if you want to lose fat you do cardio workouts that is REALLY all that will work. nothing worth having comes easy. spot fat removal is just b/s you body will decide where you will lose fat from not you. you have abs obviously but u need to get your bmi low enough to see them once that happens do some ab exercises sit ups, crunches, bicycles etc. you cant rely on a piece of equipment to do the work for you. do the work and you will see the results

 

[Justin]

I don't know if I can say much about this product to be honest, as I don't actually know what it does. i've never bothered to take the time to find out.

If it is as i assume it to be - the thing that vibrates forcing your muscles to contract rapidly - then yeah, unfortunatley you've been had by the money-grabbing, gimmick-laden fitness industry my friend.


As mentioned, there is no substitute for hard work. Look at it this way (as I explain every day to people about those ab cradle rocker things) - any equipment that is made, which makes an exercise easier to perform, is letting you get away with using less of your own effort. The easier an exericse is, the less results you'll get. Simple as that really, is it not?


Thats the principle that determines that a plank is 'harder' than a crunch, free weights are 'harder' than machines, and running is 'harder' than walking.


Also, the amount of reps you are performing for each exercise is staggering. I don't mean to sound condescending, but could I ask why you have decided to perform 50 rep sets?

 

[howdy-doody]

Also, the amount of reps you are performing for each exercise is staggering. I don't mean to sound condescending, but could I ask why you have decided to perform 50 rep sets?

Yep you sure can....

Because I am hoping to lose weight & tone... I figure (rightly or wrongly) that the higher reps at a lower weight the better for shaping / definition...

For example butterfly presses I am lifting at 30 weight (assuming metric but unsure) & repping 50 x 4.

I can lift 60 but only in reps of 10, however I assumed if I would be doing that I would be building muscle rather than helping define / tone.

I'm obviously coupling with cardio for overall weight loss (x trainer; 3 miles averaging 7 mph with 30 second spurts of sprinting every 5 mins.... swimming; 10 lengths breast stroke).

Happy to take on board any tips / suggestions.

Oh yeah... I'm on VLCD so doing this on 500 cals a day

 

[Justin]

Well, on 500 calories you won't build any muscle at all, not even with a perfect mass program. You need a caloric surplus to build muscle. Like I've said here before, I see guys trying to cram at least 3000 kcals a day down their throats and lifting heavy weights and they still don't grow.


As for burning fat and maintaining any muscle tissue you currently have (which is what people define as 'toning'), using a weight that you can lift over 20 times will not ellicit any response from your body. Basically, you're doing a light aerobic workout with free weights. (The equivelant of walking lightly instead of sprinting!)


On your LCD, you need to start lifting heavier weights in order to preserve as much muscle as possible, as well as eating heck-loads of protein. I would'nt bother lifting any weight for more than 8 reps in any set.

Also because of the low calorie intake, you won't be able to handle much volume, so you need to stick to big compound exercises to make the msot of your training sessions. These exercises will also give you a metabolic boost, forcing you to burn more calories. See my post on Total Body Training for more info.

 

[howdy-doody]

Cheers Justin...

From the aches in my body the day after the weights I lift certainly couldn't be described as light aerobic Also as VLCD induces ketosis you'd be surprised how much energy /stamina you get to workaround (that coupled with a Forza T5 stack....)

However that said I will try higher weight / lower reps for a week or so & see how I get on... I've always been all chest / shoulders & arms so lifting isn't a problem BUT (speaking specifically for the ole moobs) I was thinking that if I increased the butterfly weights I would increase the pec area / muscle rather than get shot of the fat & define... my pecs are massive BUT covered in fat at the mo They are getting a hell of a lot perter / firmer tho

I'm deffo increasing my cardio work & varying the intensity of it... & I've noticed that my stamina has increased LOADS

I know you can't determine WHERE fat comes off with cardio but was hoping with the coupled high volume reps in problem areas it would assist define

Will also check out your Total Body Training post for more tips...

 

[Justin]

Just to clarify, when you say Butterfly Presses, do you mean Flyes? (Where you keep your arms extended straight and bring them up and down as if you are hugging a big tree?)


I can see your reasoning, and you can firm up an area by making it stronger, so that when the fat is burned away you have some nice definition to show.


BUT, here's where my personal approach differs (and bare in mind this is just what I do with my clients, other trainers will have different strategies).

If a client's MAIN goal is fat loss, it makes more sense to me to lose as much fat as possible first, before trying to develop muscle in a certain area. Like I said, to develop muscle is going to take a different intake of calories (a lot closer to around 2000kcal at least for the average person). So, if you try chasing both goals at once, you won't get very far with either.


Having said that, the reason I then encourage strength training (8 reps or lower) is because heavy loads at this intensity will harden your muscles in a matter of weeks, without necessarily making them bigger, and without the need for excessive calories (I also use this method with MMA fighters who are looking to get stronger and well conditioned, but don't WANT to grow muscle, as this would affect thier weigh-ins at fights).


But making your muscles dense in this way has to be done with real 'strength' training, not just 'resistance' training. And again, by that I mean the loads must be fairly heavy. If you can lift a weight for 50 repetitions it is far too light to even affect the shape or size of the muscle. You will increase your muscular endurance but thats about it.


(Also important to note again, that using heavier weights demands more effeort, therefore you burn multiple times more calories)