just been reading up, the A4 got slated. i personally dont like the A4 i think its a bit boring after the TT. im very swayed towards the Jag, same price ish., not much more really .but much higher spec. and much more WOW factor. mondeo is a good wrok horse, we always keep one as a run around. passats he likes and has had before, but i think theyre a bit of a reps car. ive persuaded him indoors to go for a test drive next sat in the Jag. will see what they drive like. gotta see what deals we can get.