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Micci said:
Oh the grandchild's scan!!!!!!!!! I was worried. What are you on now? I hope the side effects pass very soon 'cos that sounds as bad as severe depression. Sleep well and hope tomorrow is better.
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Im taking Duloxetine which I've never had before and propranolol. I'm sitting here at 2.30am being driven slightly deranged with restless legs syndrome that I usually get when changing medication. My brain is falling asleep while my body is intent on doing the river dance all night. This is why me and SSRI's do not get on and I end up coming off them and leaving well alone. I've yet to find a anti-depressant medication where the benefits out-weigh the side effects :(
 
And this is from you GP? S/he is aware of your previous history of bad effects with Anti Ds?

In my experience, the professionals prescribe drugs and believe the written information, fully believing the side effects shouldn't still be there when the person taking them is still very much experiencing them and have no personal experience of the drugs.

If you feel you need extra support in this, how about contacting your local Mind? I have heard good things about them. Mind you, I don't suppose it is very easy for you atm to be going around phoning people etc to ask for that support. I feel for you, and your family, I really do.

Listen sweetie, if the weight loss stuff takes a bit of a back seat atm, you can still come here and talk about things. YMMV, but I find typing my propblems here very helpful, just getting it out and knowing that maybe a couple of people will respond. Even if they don't, it's the typing that helps.

Flip, and I suppose you still have to be up and getting your teens into school. Thinking of you, got my own teen to deal with now XXX
 
Micci said:
And this is from you GP? S/he is aware of your previous history of bad effects with Anti Ds?

In my experience, the professionals prescribe drugs and believe the written information, fully believing the side effects shouldn't still be there when the person taking them is still very much experiencing them and have no personal experience of the drugs.

If you feel you need extra support in this, how about contacting your local Mind? I have heard good things about them. Mind you, I don't suppose it is very easy for you atm to be going around phoning people etc to ask for that support. I feel for you, and your family, I really do.

Listen sweetie, if the weight loss stuff takes a bit of a back seat atm, you can still come here and talk about things. YMMV, but I find typing my propblems here very helpful, just getting it out and knowing that maybe a couple of people will respond. Even if they don't, it's the typing that helps.

Flip, and I suppose you still have to be up and getting your teens into school. Thinking of you, got my own teen to deal with now XXX
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You're such a lovely kind person Micci xxx even if SW goes on the back burner for a while I'll still be on here. I would still like to feel like I've got an element of control. Mind you at the moment the problem is not over eating.

My GP is aware of the sensitivity but just says the side effects should settle down. I was on tramadol for a while for the restless legs and it worked wonderful, but my GP decided that for me to be on them long-term wasn't the best idea so took me off them and put me on amitriptyline which was ok until my blood pressure and blood sugar started to go stupid so at the moment I just have to go with it. It was past 4am before I fell asleep then I was chatting to T at half six while he was getting ready for work. I did go to sleep again after the sprogs left for school at 8.30 and slept until 10.30 so I've had about 4/5 hours....Ive kept busy all day hoping me being totally shattered will be enough to knock me out later.. Trouble is I get restless legs if I get over tired so Im in a no win situation.

I'm seriously considering not going to class tomorrow. I feel so wasted and spaced out and abit vague. I'm just very conscious of not being totally with it, not the best state of mind when you're dealing with the enthusiasm of people's weight loss and being responsible for sorting out their awards. Watch this space.

Still feel icky, still can't be arsed with eating anything, the thought makes me gag, but I've made myself eat this morning, don't need my metabolism going sleep, it's hard enough to lose weight has it is.

Anyway food...

Breakfast: banana, coffee (hexA)

Lunch: slice of toast (hexB) with a laughing cow cheese triangle (a bit of a hexA)

Dinner: ss quorn burger (2.5 syns) in a wholemeal bread roll (hexB) with a low low cheese slice (the other bit of the hexA) salad and sw wedges, ketchup (1 syn) and salad cream (1 syn)...this is what's planned - what I eat of it I don't know.

SYNS:
Friday - 27
Saturday - 47.5
Sunday- 16.5
Monday - 0
Tuesday - 1
Wednesday - 0
Thursday - 4.5
=96.5
 
Eeeeeeek!!!!!!!!! you can take tramadol? Awful awful stuff that, (IMO) although after I'd been used to heavy opiates when I was in hospital before I was OK with them for a while at home. As it is now I've two packets in the house somewhere with 2 or 3 taken out of them and then I couldn't take anymore. Will be back, this is a stolen moment, we are having difficulties of our own here with my boy. Most probably some side effects will lessen, its amazing what the body can get used to.

Remember, this too will pass

ps, thanks for your compliments XXXX
 
Micci said:
Eeeeeeek!!!!!!!!! you can take tramadol? Awful awful stuff that, (IMO) although after I'd been used to heavy opiates when I was in hospital before I was OK with them for a while at home. As it is now I've two packets in the house somewhere with 2 or 3 taken out of them and then I couldn't take anymore. Will be back, this is a stolen moment, we are having difficulties of our own here with my boy. Most probably some side effects will lessen, its amazing what the body can get used to.

Remember, this too will pass

ps, thanks for your compliments XXXX
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I would take 2 at night and it was bliss - but I will be honest and say that it was getting to the point where I thought I might have up start taking 3 a night....slippery slope.

Hope things have settled down for you today xxx
 
Lisa-Lisa said:
I would take 2 at night and it was bliss - but I will be honest and say that it was getting to the point where I thought I might have up start taking 3 a night....slippery slope.

Hope things have settled down for you today xxx
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Hark at us middle aged druggies swapping notes :) they made me seriously sick. When my sciatica was almost at it's worst I ODed on an accidental combination of them and strong co-codamol. I now view them with deep suspicion. Three a night is indeed a slippery slope. Gosh. Opiates do get less effective as the body gets acclimatised, the option is to either up the dose or do without for a few days. I would grit my teeth and take the days limit of ibuprofen and paracetamol for a few days and them be so happy when the co codamol started working again, in conjunction with 600 mgs of ibuprofen, it took the edge of it properly again.

Things are quiet here, too quiet, that's the problem, we have someone on the verge of withdrawing into themselves again and due to funding cuts we are getting less support now, it wasn't a lot once he was out of hospital anyway. Anyway, yes is nice now, daughter and bf have just got home from college and a nice atmosphere is spreading.

I hope it eases for you very very soon. Ah grief and pain, there is no short cut I am sorry to say, we have to live through it before coming out the other side. But we can get help if we get stuck, which sounds like what you are doing now. Good for you for going and getting the help. I am here for you if you want to talk and unload away from minis.
 
its always so frustrating taking things and hoping they'll make it better, then they make you feel crap for a while, but go with it, hopefully it'll work out. the GP is aware and you've been clear with them so hoping this is the best solution for you at the mo. counselling will come 'round again in no time, had mine today andit was really good. think it might be for life but never wanted that... we'll see.

i know you feel spaced but how about texting your consultant, telling her you can't stay and do awards but at least going for the weigh. it'll get you out and keep you with sw in mind a little bit. i've never felt like i can't eat - must be really strange and that must make you feel tired and weak too. i hate restless legs - runs in my family (haha that wasn't meant to be a joke!), i just have to get up and walk around but when you're hanging it's not the best and i get all frustrated!

things will get better my lovely. def stay on here even if the food goes haywire. i'd miss you if you left (selfish) plus i think that it is good to offload. as micci says, pour it out as it is - at least it's out then and not festering.

xx
 
Did you have a think about what to do about SW tomorrow? M's suggestion was sensible, if you do feel up to just going for the WI (that abbreviation still looks like Womens Institute to me ) to help you keep a bit of focus for next week. Hope you feel a little better when you wake up.
 
I've decided to go to class, I'm going to be frank and explain to her what's going on at the moment and take it from there.

Thanks lovelies for all your support. It means more than what you think xxxxx
 
It goes both ways - the support I mean. Like a the playtex 2 way stretch bra. Are you old enough to remember that bras didn't used to stretch? Good on you for going to class.
 
Micci said:
It goes both ways - the support I mean. Like a the playtex 2 way stretch bra. Are you old enough to remember that bras didn't used to stretch? Good on you for going to class.
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Well I remember my mums industrial strength bras lol :) xx
 
1.5 on - haven't got a clue. But there was lots of gains this week and quite a few p!ssed off people with unexplained gains (including myself). I've gone over it and over it in my head and come up with a few conclusions..

A) The scales need calibrating. It can't be just a coincidence that people who have followed the plan to the letter have gained.

B) I'm drinking loads but it don't seem to be coming out has much. So I'm thinking water retention.

C) I haven't been regular since starting these tablets on Tuesday.

D) I've hardly eaten since Tuesday either. So thinking metabolism etc.

Either of the above are contenders. But I know one thing I've kept on plan.

Anyway onwards and downwards see what this week brings
xxx
 
Oh that is strange, like you said lots of possible reasons but I THINK that not eating much since Tuesday isn't quite long enough to kick 'famine brain' into action. I don't know the science but in my binge and fast days I could go for 4 days on a handful of apples and be OK. Not very good if the official SW scales are out of calibration, but good for the people with unexplained gains.

I hope it falls off you by next week, it should do. Onwards and downwards in respect of SW, onwards and upwards in everything else.
 
Lisa-Lisa said:
1.5 on - haven't got a clue. But there was lots of gains this week and quite a few p!ssed off people with unexplained gains (including myself). I've gone over it and over it in my head and come up with a few conclusions..

A) The scales need calibrating. It can't be just a coincidence that people who have followed the plan to the letter have gained.

B) I'm drinking loads but it don't seem to be coming out has much. So I'm thinking water retention.

C) I haven't been regular since starting these tablets on Tuesday.

D) I've hardly eaten since Tuesday either. So thinking metabolism etc.

Either of the above are contenders. But I know one thing I've kept on plan.

Anyway onwards and downwards see what this week brings
xxx
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Bummer - if lots of people have it it's 2 things - the scales or the sun - hot bringing retention as you say - it'll come off x
 
Today has been pants food wise. I've not eaten much but what I have eaten has been crappy high fat, high sugar very high syn rubbish.
I'm just gonna have to start again tomorrow and try and move on from the mysterious gain and the crap I've eaten.
 
Yes, forgive yourself and move on. How are the meds affecting you today?
 
Might it be worth asking for a referal to a MH specialist? A psychiatrist presumably as they are the ones who prescribe as oppposed to doing talking therapies. I've got all my spare limbs and digits in metaphorical knots for you that the side effects do ease off and you feel some benefits from all this VERY soon
 
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