Doggy Hugo update

I'm sorry.. I hope I don't offend you by posting this.. But am I the only person who is getting a little annoyed by your constant requests for help & advice, only to ignore it completely days later?! Seriously?! Why even bother asking for help in the first place?

Just because he might be behaving now doesn't mean that his behavioural issues don't need addressing before he seriously hurts someone.

I honestly don't understand how you can go from being completely & utterly terrified of this dog, 2 days ago, to being perfectly happy & content with him.

Seriously, either take the advice given or stop posting requests!
 
Wow. Really, no need for that.

I admit, when I posted I was in quite an emotional state, possibly reaching out for a bit of cyber sympathy or consoling. I work from home on the computer, so often, this place is an early port of call. And as for taking the advice, in actual fact, many of it has been taken on board. But, as I'm sure you know, there is a lot of conflicting ideas out there with regards what is the best course of action, so choosing the right one isn't exactly text book.

May I suggest in future, you don't read my posts, and save yourself from clearly getting irate. And I will refrain from future postings regarding my dog.
 
I am pleased you post about Hugo, I have a springer named Lola and she is a little angel one minute and a proper little ***** at others, nice to read about the ups and downs of a fellow dog owner :)

Keep posting please :D
 
aren't all dogs angels sometimes and devils the next minute,just by their very nature and like you said unti hugo can talk to you you'll never know...

we have 3 terriers and 2 whippets, the terriers are terrorists in a word, but then they can be absolutely lush

yesterday when walking them a man was passing with a labrador and he said 'you're just like the dog whisperer' because one of them had sat while i rolled his extendable lead in and the others just ignored him and his dog lol, couldn't be further from the truth.

Have you thought about agility rather than obedience? you can keep his lead on and its great for control and helps with the boredom/needs to work scenario. Collies are more often than not fab at it and it will help you develop your relationship.
 
I took mine to agility lol she refused to go through the tunnel she is such a jessie
 
My stupid dog loved the tunnel and would make his own WEIRD routes that always ended in the tunnel. But, my dog is offically stupid, on the 5th he likes to go out and WATCH the fireworks (it's weird watching his head move to follow them!)
 
If he could talk, I bet he would! lol.
 
Hey, I don't know much about dogs with fear aggression but I do have a short haired collie a rough collie and a collie cross.

The collie cross is 17 now and incredibly doddery. Didn't have many problems until her eye sight and hearing started getting poorer... You just have to approach with caution. A couple of years ago she bit another dog because well, basically it tried to hump her and she didn't like it...

My other collies are soooooooo lively. Tess is the short haired collie and as soppy as anything - your typical dog though, barks at the postman window cleaner etc.... She has selective hearing but treats work ridiculously well! Foodie!

Jack is the rough collie and he's still a baby he's 2 now and very big, very hyperactive! He is a wimp. He jumps and bites at shadows... He sits and stares at shadows for ages. He chases flies and butterflies. Hates noises, he hides but will lick anything and everything.

Dogs are very hit and miss with behaviour... We are fortunate to live by fields so each morning jack and tess go for an hours walk with mum and they'll play fetch etc I'n the afternoon or evening they go for another long walk and then play all evening. They play with each other so no adult interaction required really... At the weekend they go for a 2 hour walk in the afternoons with my grandads terrier.

Maybe your dog is lonely. To him - why should you be there all day and not play with him, whereas anyone else that comes to the house plays with them... And maybe he needs a longer walk. Somewhere you can let him off to build up trust I'n each other... If a dog does turn up teach him to heel and look at you and give him treats as long as he keeps your gaze... That'll distract him. It won't work overnight it'll take practice! Xx
 
We did consider that he might be lonely, and were told that if we perhaps got a larger, more dominant dog, then Hugo would back down more. However, this was not the case what-so-ever, so that idea went out the window. When I am working, he sleeps on his blankets by the side of me. But any time I get up, he gets up too. The lady at Collie Rescue said this is quite normal, they have a Collie, and he spends his day asleep in their office, quite happy. She also said that longer walks can be more detrimental for dogs like Hugo, as they can wind him up more. Seems you can't win! :)

There is an area nearby where I can let him off (usually), but at the minute, work commitments mean I can't get there just yet. I do intend on taking him there this morning, but we shall see. It seems he must have been poorly socialised as a pup, and there isn't a lot I can do about that now, just keep working with him. He has a poorly stomach at the minute, so having to keep the treats to a minimum whilst we work out what it is that has set him off.
 
Qua Sae said:
I'm sorry.. I hope I don't offend you by posting this.. But am I the only person who is getting a little annoyed by your constant requests for help & advice, only to ignore it completely days later?! Seriously?! Why even bother asking for help in the first place?

Just because he might be behaving now doesn't mean that his behavioural issues don't need addressing before he seriously hurts someone.

I honestly don't understand how you can go from being completely & utterly terrified of this dog, 2 days ago, to being perfectly happy & content with him.

Seriously, either take the advice given or stop posting requests!
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You know TT , I do not think this poster meant to be offensive though it does come over that way. I think the concern is genuine.

I would be concerned about the aggressive behaviour as well and that he is unpredictable.

You know I admire and support you in all you have done with Hugo and the chance you have given him.

As you rightly say you do not know what his beginnings were so it makes it harder for both you and him, poor boy.

Of our 2 Great Danes , who are litter brothers one was sold before we had him. He was only away from the breeder for one week. In that time they heard he was being ill treated so they bought him back . He must have had a hard time as he is still head shy and very unsure of new people. His first response to anything he is not sure of is aggression. As we are aware of it we never allow him to be in a position where he is unsure. We are very lucky we have our own land and very few properties around us.

His brother is an absolute poppet, a darling.

The point of this long and rambling posting is that I admire your tenacity with Hugo but feel you will always have to be super vigilant with him.

Collies are supremely intelligent and learn very quickly Unfortunately it means they also learn what they can get away with as well.

love and hugs from me and my unruly pack xxxxx



kerryathome said:
aren't all dogs angels sometimes and devils the next minute,just by their very nature and like you said unti hugo can talk to you you'll never know...

we have 3 terriers and 2 whippets, the terriers are terrorists in a word, but then they can be absolutely lush

yesterday when walking them a man was passing with a labrador and he said 'you're just like the dog whisperer' because one of them had sat while i rolled his extendable lead in and the others just ignored him and his dog lol, couldn't be further from the truth.

Have you thought about agility rather than obedience? you can keep his lead on and its great for control and helps with the boredom/needs to work scenario. Collies are more often than not fab at it and it will help you develop your relationship.
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I love this positive and knowledgeable, first hand experience, reply


more hugs xxxx
 
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I am a bit concerned that you are afraid of the dog. This just feeds into his power over you and a dog with fear agression needs to feel 100% sucure with you and that you can protect him from whatever it is that are his triggers otherwise you will never get anywhere with him. Please get expert help from someone who is highly recommended for working with this sort of case otherwise you may just be wasting your time.
 
Final update from me on this :(

Tomorrow afternoon, I am taking Hugo to his new home in Lincoln. He is going to live with a collie behaviourist, who is going to train him up for flyball, and is looking forward to meeting her latest member of her pack.

Despite my best efforts, his behaviour worsened to the point where I cannot cope. He is unhappy, I am unhappy. So I set about finding him a new home last week, secured it on Wednesday, and think I have found the perfect place for him :)

We were coming down every morning to a mess on the kitchen floor, despite him being let out before we went to bed, and his water being lifted up. He spends most of the morning barking at me, then when we get back from our morning walk, he does the same. Monday I caught him eating a book, yesterday he was eating the wall when I got out the shower, and this morning we came downstairs to discover the banister had been eaten. Bearing in mind he gets several walks a day, more playtime than he was getting, allowed on the sofa more than he was, and is left overnight with a Kong, chew rings and lord knows what else, he is clearly an unhappy chap. I just hope he is a lot happier with his new 'mum', and that I have done the right thing :(

But I am dreading what we will come downstairs to tomorrow morning.
 
well done for making such a brave decision, sounds like he's going where he needs to for his own happiness and yours. Well done for finding such a pefect home for him xx
 
It's a shame but you've made the right decision. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Let's hope both you and Hugo are much happier in the long run.

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