Extra Help For Xenical Starters

bunny_hops said:
There is already a lot of good information out there for new starters, but sometimes people still aren't very clear, so I though I'd add some extra information that may help.

What Is Xenical And How Does It Work?
Xenical is a prescriptive drug that helps people to loose weight. There are weight loss drugs out there that you may've heard of that work via your brain or central nervous system to suppress your appetite or speed up your metabolism, Xenical doesn't do this.
Xenical works in your digestive system to block one third of the fat that you eat from being digested.

Enzymes in your digestive system help to break down the fat you eat, when taken with meals, Xenical with grab hold of those enzymes and block them from breaking down the fat. The undigested fat is removed via your bowel movements. In essence, Xenical will stop a third of all the fat you eat per meal from being absorbed into your body.

Xenical comes with side effects, not everyone will experience them, they include..


[*]Oily spotting (uncontrolled anal oil seepage)
[*]Abdominal pain (stomach pain) or discomfort
[*]Gas with a small amount of oil or stool
[*]Fecal urgency (an urgent but controlled need to have a bowel movement)
[*]Fatty or oily stool
[*]Oily evacuation (bowel movements of just oil, without stool)
[*]Increased frequency of bowel movements
[*]Nausea
[*]Uncontrolled, spontaneous bowel movements (known as fecal incontinence)
Like any other diet plan, be it Weight Watchers or Slimming World, there are rules to taking Xenical, if you break these rules, then the chances of you getting some bowel problems are quite high.. in the world of Xenical users, we call this 'getting tango'd ' or 'been hit by the tango man' (more about the rules after)

Other more common side efftects include

[*]Headache
[*]Common cold
[*]Tiredness
[*]Anxiety
These common side effects usually pass within the first week or so.



The 5g/15g rule

Like all diets there are rules and Xenical isn't an exception. By following the rules you will give yourself the best chance for good weight loss (saying that, you can still plateau and put weight on) and to avoid the nasty side effects, You should eat no more than 5grams of fat per 100grams, sounds confusing?..it's not really.

You'll be amazed at what you can have, and there's always a low fat alternative. You should also stick to no more than 15grams of fat per meal..still sounds daunting and confusing, fear not.. once you understand the rule, it comes second nature. It took me a good few hours to get my head around this rule, and several emails to a fellow Xenical user before i fully understood what I should be eating, to help you understand what you should be looking for, I've included a nutritional label. (yes, understanding those tables, can seem a nightmare in itself, but you only need to look in one place)



By looking at the chart, you can follow the fat along until you come to the per 100g column (this is the first part of the rule,the 5grule) it states that there is 17.4g's per 100g, this doesn't fit in with the rule, and therefore can't be used for a meal. (Please note the per serving column, as this says 0.6g's, this is where you could get caught out, ignore what's in this column, always look for the per 100g)

Now, take a look at another table



Using the same method as before, locate the fat on the left of the table,follow along to the per 100g column and you will see that is says 4.9g, this is within the rules of Xenical, and that's the 5g rule, to make sure you have no more than 15g's per meal, you can see that this meal is 7.4g per serving, you have a little over 7gs of fat left for this meal, which can include whatever you like as long as you always follow the 5g rule.

Food To Stay Away From

Not all foods with cause the same reaction with everyone, it's all about trial and error really. The main culprits are eggs, mainly the yolks. Fish especially oily fish. Sometimes baked beans have caused problems for some people and cheese.

Take Aways And Eating Out

Take aways can still be enjoyed, but you just have to make the right choices. Chinese foods can be greasy and oily but rice and noodles, chinese veg, chow meins are good choices, staying clear of anything duck related.
Eating out is fine too, again making the right choices. Pizza we all love, but it really doesn't mix well with Xenical.

If you have a night out planned and don't want to risk any explosions and a visit from Mr Tango then it's best to stop taking the Xenical 3 days before you plan to go out, this way you shouldn't have a reaction. Xenical can be taken with you while you're on holiday (that's if you want to) just make sure you apply the rules on holiday. (I like to think that if you're going to enjoy a holiday, then make the most of it, and go without the Xenical)

The Importance Of Water

Everyone should drink 2-3 litres a day as standard, however, people who diet and do exercise need extra, the amount depends on your height, weight, sex, where you live, alititude.

A good estimate is to take your body weight in pounds and divide that number in half. That gives you the number of ounces of water per day that you need to drink. For example, if you weigh 160 pounds, you should drink at least 80 ounces of water per day. If you exercise you should drink another 8 ounce glass of water for every 20 minutes you are active. If you drink coffee or alcohol, you should drink at least an equal amount of water. If you live in an arid climate, you should add another 2 servings per day. As you can see, your daily need for water can add up to quite a lot.

The link below will take you to a water calculator, with extra information.

Calculate How Much Water You Should Drink Every Day

Sweets And Sugar

If you're anything like me, you love sugary foods and sweets. The downside to Xenical is that sweets are allowed!! Ok, they fit in with the Xenical rules, there is no fat in sweets, sounds mad?, but it's true. Can you become addicted to sugary foods?....errr yes....I'm living proof of that!

So why do we love sugar? Research suggests that when we eat sugary foods, the brain releases natural feel good chemicals, dopamine, causing dependency..the same process with addictive drugs. Sugary foods also gives a fast energy kick by raising the blood sugar quickly and then drops just as dramatically. Having low blood sugar can lead to sugar cravings, and so the cycle continues, it's lethal!

Being addicted to sugar has it's consequences. Long term bingeing leads to obesity, diabetes, tooth decay, gum diseases and can make you really windy..parp! The best way to get to beat the sugar is to manage our glucose levels, by eating small meals, made up of protein, complex carbs and vegetables and avoiding refined carbs, like white bread, white rice and pasta, as these have the same effect as refined sugar, giving you an surge of energy that lives you crashing back down again.

Beware of hidden sugars! It's important to read your labels. On processed foods sugar is displayed as 'carbohydrates, of which sugars'. A figure of 15g or more more 100g is considered high, less than 5g per 100g is considered low. Check the ingredients list, if sugar is at the top, the greater the portion of sugar there is the food. Also watch out for added sugars, glucose, sucrose, fructose, corn syrup.

Exercise Before Or After Food

Ever wondered if you should exercise before or after food?...Well here's the answer..

Both, and the reason why?

Back in the old days, people thought they should train on an empty stomach in order to burn more fat, but that has turned out to be FALSE. Your body needs some glucose (blood sugar) for fuel in addition to what it can use from fat stores when you're working out. If you don't have any blood sugar available, your body will eat the muscles' glycogen, or stored glucose. Low blood sugar will also make you tired and sluggish during your training session. For these reasons, it's best you eat something 45 minutes to an hour before exercising -- you'll have more energy and endurance to work harder, burn more calories, and improve your muscle tone.
After training, during a period known as the golden hour (45 to 60 minutes after a workout), muscles absorb the most nutrients, and glycogen is replaced the most efficiently. You don't have to have a huge meal -- just a little something that contains both protein and carbs will give the best results.

Useful Tools, Calculators Bits Of Fun

Calorie calculator Calorie Calculator - Daily Caloric Needs

Activity caluculator Calories Burned - Exercise Calculator

Ideal weight Ideal Weight Calculator

Body fat Body Fat Calculator

BMI BMI Calculator

Weight conversions Weight Converter

A good site to track your food, weight and help you find out calories of food is my fitness pal. A lot if Minis members use this site along with their diets and food diaries.

www.myfitnesspal.com

Any extra information that I think may be helpful I'll add in time.

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If you're unsure about the charts, then go to page 1 and you'll see them ;)
 
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please see page 1 :)
 
im still abit confused even tho i have been on and off this tablet for years. i have been sticking to no more then 5g of fat per meal! is that right? i dont get all this 5g of every 100 g. (im a bit dumb lol) am i doing the right thing? xx
 
It's no more than 5 g of fat per 100g and 45 g of fat per day which equates to 15g fat per meal.

You need to eat more :)

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Fantastic thread thank you!!

One question though, I understand that the tablets block the fat so even if you don't have any of the nasty side affects are the tablets still working iyswim, or do they only work at blocking the fat if you have more fat than allowed? Not sure if that makes sense LOL
 
The tablets block 1/3 of the fat you eat.. If you only eat a little fat you don't see the orange in the toilet... But tablets still are doing their work ;)

If you over eat your fat allowance then you will see orange in the toilet.. If you really really over eat your fat allowance you most likely will leak orange in your underwear, and it could be really bad to pass wind!! You can get follow through (tmi?) lol

I now only pass wind in the toilet - I ate 3 croissants for breakfast when I 1st started! Bad mistake!!
 
Ah right, thanks for that just helps me understand it a bit more and never TMI LOL!! :D
 
I've just started on orlistat this week and have found this thread very useful
I have just one question though if I'm having some cereal for breakfast and the fat per 100g is 1.9g, per 40g serving is 2.8g fat, working off the 15g fat per meal does this mean I could have an 80g serving if I wanted to
 
Hi, If the fat per 100g is 1.9g (i.e. 1.9%) how can the lesser weight of a 40g serving have 2.8g of fat in? Either way, yes you could have a 80g serving :) xx
 
Hmmmm said:
Hi, If the fat per 100g is 1.9g (i.e. 1.9%) how can the lesser weight of a 40g serving have 2.8g of fat in? Either way, yes you could have a 80g serving :) xx

Sorry forgot to say the serving was calculating the milk as well. Thanks for your reply I'm just trying to get to grips with it all
 
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