The last stone mission......ROLL UP!!!!

[clairejen]

Hi Frodo, remember the bit where you lose a finger, got to be a couple of ounces there! Good for you getting back to it again. I have been absent and bad for some time, another show over and several pounds back on. But still under a stone to go down so I guess I must go on the mission too.

I've got really confused over food lately, so am trying the GI thing in a low key fashion. Maybe if I try posting here it will make me concentrate a bit more. So I have 11 pounds to go, currently 10st 4lbs, wannabe 9 and a half.

Tonight I am committed to a chinese with friends, but that is not a serious problem, and I'm not going to be too strict with myself because it won't work, I need something I can live with now.

Right, so it is goodbye to white flour, white sugar, and potatoes. Lots of fruit, veg and whole grains, plus protein. Sure, I can do that (short tap cadenza).

 

[girlygirl]

I'm confused......you have a thing about elves? like an elf fettish??

Personally I think Legolas is rather camp....think it may be the platinum blonde hair. Gimmie Aragorn any day of the week, although not the chap who plays him. You seen Hidalgo? total turn off! yuk.

Coolios about meeting the famous peeps!! that is muchos exciting.

I'm not really a LOTR freak.....I just go a bit mad in my solitude on the misson and write to amuse myself. I'm a Harry Potter fan really (pleeeeaase don't lynch me!!)

PJ? who is PJ? did he steal your stones?

xx

PJ is Peter Jackson!

I think Legolas is absolutely gorgeous, but since Elves are a very 'beautiful' race, I can understand the 'camp' reference. The one who is really camp is Haldir - the Lothlorien border guard. He looks and sounds like he's in drag!

As for Aragorn....well, yeah... PHOARR! Viggo has never looked better - nor shall he.

Today I would love some real, tasty, savoury, delicious food, and not in a tiny, family-of-white-mice sized portion.

Sigh. My tummy's rumbling.

 

[girlygirl]

Hi Frodo, remember the bit where you lose a finger, got to be a couple of ounces there! Good for you getting back to it again. I have been absent and bad for some time, another show over and several pounds back on. But still under a stone to go down so I guess I must go on the mission too.

I've got really confused over food lately, so am trying the GI thing in a low key fashion. Maybe if I try posting here it will make me concentrate a bit more. So I have 11 pounds to go, currently 10st 4lbs, wannabe 9 and a half.

Tonight I am committed to a chinese with friends, but that is not a serious problem, and I'm not going to be too strict with myself because it won't work, I need something I can live with now.

Right, so it is goodbye to white flour, white sugar, and potatoes. Lots of fruit, veg and whole grains, plus protein. Sure, I can do that (short tap cadenza).

Your future diet plan sounds yummy. Oh for some fruit and veg, and some grains and pasta...

 

[clairejen]

Well I've been doing this for a few days now and it is very odd. The wholemeal stuff really loads you up and to start with I put on three pounds which horrifed me. But that has gone again and I hope I will start losing for real now. I certainly don't feel as hungry, and I'm getting to like the taste of bran and brown sugar. It takes a lot of baking though, I'm spending way too much time in the kitchen. I reckon if everything is homemade then I'll know what's in it.

Girlygirl, what sort of diet are you on? I did Cambridge last year, lost !st 10lbs but have since put about 9lbs back on so I am really trying to get on top of things again. Losing weight on no food is relatively easy, coming to terms with real food isn't so straightforward. That's why I am trying GI, letting myself have things I like without going mad. The fruit and veg are great, I even have some cake made with weird things like sweet potatoes and quark.

Coley, how's the mission going? And the studying - is this your final year? I remember how short of time I was in my last year at uni, it was scary.

 

[girlygirl]

I'm on CD, and have been SS-ing and 790-ing and even 1000-ing for too darn long!

My problem is that I don't feel wonderful whist SS-ing. Any 'kick' I get initially soon vanishes and I start to feel tired, depressed and, all too often, hungry.

I SS-ed for four days last week then began to feel terrible - sickness and diarrhoea. Might have had nothing to do with CD but I suddenly realised that I will have to find another way. I can SS-for a few days each week but for the rest of the week I need to do GI or even calorie-counted Atkins.

Even that worries me. I can't remember the last time I ate a piece of fruit - or a vegetable - but it was many, many months ago. I did have a teensy bit of salad last month. Frankly I am starting to think that eating/not eating in this way is kinda nuts.

To help lessen my sickness I've been adding extra protein and one or two small portions of boiled 50% reduced-carb pasta. Already I notice a difference.

I think I may have been on too few calories for too long a period, and this doesn't seem to suit my body. So it's time to go back to a hybrid 790-1000 plan that includes at least salad and some low GI fruit.

I feel I must, because I can't go on feeling this low and debilitated.

 

[sonkie]

How you doing Girl......?

 

[sonkie]

 

[Coley]

oooooough...this is interesting....people on the thread.....how did that happen?

I have to blitz the living room for clients...but I will be back......

 

[sonkie]

Ok Arnie.......!

 

[clairejen]

GG if it is any consolation I didn't feel that good on Cambridge either. Ketosis didn't make me happy and energetic, I never seemed to get in that deeply, my CDC reckoned it might be because I didn't have a great deal to lose and I was pretty fit. So I wasn't getting the full benefit of exercise because I didn't have the stamina, thinking back I should have done 790 or 1000. I did lose weight at a reasonable rate but it is soooo easy to regain.

I'm wondering if you are reacting to anything in CD, like slight lactose intolerance or something. If you intend following GI later on then perhpas you would be happier starting that way now, your craving for fruit and vegetables could be your body trying to tell you something.

Whatever diet you choose it has to be comfortable for you, weight loss is a great goal but healthy eating has got to be the final aim. I was against the low GI idea becuse I so didn't want to have to learn a whole new set of values for foods. I tried protein based diets, it was OK but the shopping was constant and I found it limiting. So, kicking and screaming, here I am and it seems fine. Whether I will lose much on it remains to be seen, at the minute just stabilising would be a bonus. I haven't spent hours studying charts but tried to take on board the basic principles and work from there.

 

[girlygirl]

Hi everyone.

I tried to SS again - a measure of my desperation, perhaps - managed a few days then fell off the wagon in spectacular fashion with a fistful of BREAKAWAYS bought for my son's visits. I almost never buy biscuits of any sort, because sooner or later they 'get' me.

Rather than go drearily back to SS-ing today I have decided to introduce a small amount of carbs. I'll do this for several days, then slightly 'up' the amount. I really feel that I must get back to some kind of normal eating, because trying and failing to SS is getting me down and I feel weaker each time. I don't feel good on it, anyway, but I crave the fast weight loss. We all do. That's the problem.

I'll buy some salad and fruit tomorrow and force myself to eat it. I say, force, because if CD has done one thing for me, it has made me s**t scared of carbs, even fruit and vegetables. If I don't address this phobia now, I dread to think where I might end up.

CD is fantastic in its way and I know it works like magic for some, but I simply must have a break. Sadly I know I will regain hugely at first; just the thought makes me feel almost sicker than I already am.

What starts off as a 'miracle' can all too easily become a treadmill. Am I the only one scared of even healthy carbs? It's taken me months to realise that I now have a serious problem in this area.

 

[Mini]

Hi girlygirl,

You are going the right way about it of re-introducing carbs gradually over a couple of days and you will avoid the weight gain.

But if you go straight back into eating carbs from SSing you will be more inclined to overfill the glycogen store.

I SS-ed for four days last week then began to feel terrible - sickness and diarrhea

If you think about doing Cambridge Diet again you might ask about their lactose intolerant range and see if that helps with the diarrhea.


There is a small range of Cambridge Diet drinks made with soy milk is available on request. These are suitable for those who are lactose intolerant or who have a milk allergy

Love Mini xxx

 

[clairejen]

Girlygirl, I wouldn't worry too much about overeating, when I started eating again after CD I literally couldn't eat too much, my stomach had shrunk a lot. So if what you eat is healthy stuff and not loaded with sugar and refined carbs you should be fine and keep losing. Enjoying fresh fruit and vegetables has got to be better than binging on choccy biscuits.

I'm still plodding on, bit lighter yesterday but nothing exciting. A gradual loss is what I want so I'm just trying to keep away from temptation and not think about it too much.

Coley, how is the mission?

 

[Coley]

Last exam tomorrow....mission bad...no pats on back for me

Will be back, promise.....just not today!! lol....must revise. Suddenly Psychology contains quantum physics??!! eh??!

will sort you out soon girlygirl.....and clairejen...you need to keep the mission alive!!!! do you want to be hobbitses?? or elves??!!

Mini....source of info as always. genius.

xx

 

[girlygirl]

Hi girls.

I won't be weighing myself for a week or two, in order to avoid the glycogen regain horrors. I can be aware of them without having to SEE them!

I always hoped to reintroduce real food about one stone from goal. I lost my first six stones by calorie counting and the odd jog, then a further three by CD-ing. Two stones left to lose, and perhaps it's for the best that I try to lose them by including a little real food. I know it won't be easy.

I don't think I'm lactose intolerant. I love milk and cheese and have never had a problem, before. I suppose it's possible to have developed a problem, since, or perhaps to have unmasked a hidden one.

790 always suited me, and I did well on it. I began to feel, however, that I 'ought' to be SS-ing. Where that pressure came from, I don't know. But the thought that one day of cheating could cause a 7lb gain has never been far from my mind. The recent post about a stone regained in only four days hit me like a mild shockwave. I'm still feeling the aftershock!

I am very pleased with my results on CD. I'd got 'stuck' and it really helped. I think we will always come back to it, always have it in our lives, at least as a maintenance tool. Used correctly it is fantastic.

If my calorie counting plans go belly up I'll review my situation.

Thanks everyone for being so helpful and encouraging.

 

[clairejen]

Elf or hobbit, hmmm, I'm never going to be elf shaped and I have been known to grow a few hairs on my toes (urgh) so I think I must be a natural hobbit. Good luck with the exam Coley, that needs your concentration now and the mission can take a pause for a few more hours.

Girlygirl, I have read some people reporting that their metabolism slowed on SS and they plateaud and couldn't lose more. This could account for the quick weight gain some seem to suffer. More food balanced by more exercise is the suggested remedy. One diet I tried said that you should stabilise (presumably not eat as much as you can!) for 10 days for every kilo lost, at the end of that your metabolism should be back to normal. Good luck with the food reintroduction.

 

[girlygirl]

Thanks, Clairejen.

I do worry about the effect on my metabolism cos I've been CD-ing since last year and I never really imagined that I'd still be doing it.

I began to exercise an hour or minimum half an hour each day, and it helped, but it made me hungry in the evenings and on SS you are not supposed to exercise in any kind of punishing way! Not enough glycogen in the muscles to support it.

Why is 'healthy eating' so hard? lol.

 

[clairejen]

I couldn't agree more, if it tastes good it ought to be good for you, right? What other reason would there be for something to taste nice than that it is meant to be eaten? So called 'healthy eating' often seems boring and unappealing when what we really want is chocolate.

Exercising on SS is depressing, I kept up with my dance classes and was seriously struggling, not enough energy to do it properly, but I couldn't go without classes for months because I'm scared of stiffening up and never being able to do it again. I think you have to do food and exercise together, not coming home afterwards and eating pizza LOL but eating in the day to exercise later. I'm trying to keep an evening carb curfew because munching biscuits in the evening used to be a favourite of mine, and keeping going till the packet was empty. I suppose I was doing the blood sugar highs and crashes that GI is supposed to smooth out. I've been reading more about it today, very interesting articles which explained a lot of what was confusing me.

Sounds like you've got the right plans in place, you've come a long way so you can do this last little bit. We all can, hooray for the elves and hobbits.

 

[girlygirl]

Very interesting day, so far, diet wise.

I had about 20 cans of Slim Fast left over from a 'break' I took from CD at the start of the year.

So, I thought, a good way to reintroduce carbs...

I had one for brekkie, and one for lunch, then a small sandwich about ten minutes ago.

Amazing.

I can feel a change in fluid balance already but I won't panic. It will disperse. It did last time.

I seem to have lost my dread and fear of eating. Long may it last!

How are you doing, Clairejen?

 

[girlygirl]

ps

I intended to introduce carbs way more slowly. So far I feel good. Much better than I did!

But no weighing just yet.