The last stone mission......ROLL UP!!!!

Hi all!

I haven't posted on here for a while. Been popping the same few pounds on and off. Feeling more in control this week finally. In fact the last few pounds I put on while in Germany last week eating many a sausage and slice of Stollen. Was lovely very Xmassy with the markets. Have fun Clarejen!

I thought about posting again but finally decided to just now when checking out the binge eating thread. I noticed that Olijames we are in the same place. I want to be in the 10's for Xmas too! Thought maybe we should buddy up a bit on here. I haven't posted on the binge thread I'm working myself up to it. It is not a subject I am very comfortable with. I think because I can't fully understand and I consider it to be (in my case anyway) a form of self harming in no way is it comfort eating!

Anyway I am tentatively checking out the thread as like you I am that close to goal that I need to deal with it pretty soon. I find myself avoiding dealing with it. I can imagine I would buy the book and not get around to reading. I skim read the thread too. I need to fess up and comfront my demons. Maybe we can help each other with that. Maybe we can each promise to read up on the issue and discuss from time to time. I guess I should have posted this on the 'other' thread.

Do you understand why I am finding it difficult to face. To be honest I am quite surprised really! I would have thought I would be eager to confront it full on (as you seem to be!)

Said enough I think!

Dizzy x
 
Hi all!

I haven't posted on here for a while. Been popping the same few pounds on and off. Feeling more in control this week finally. In fact the last few pounds I put on while in Germany last week eating many a sausage and slice of Stollen. Was lovely very Xmassy with the markets. Have fun Clarejen!

I thought about posting again but finally decided to just now when checking out the binge eating thread. I noticed that Olijames we are in the same place. I want to be in the 10's for Xmas too! Thought maybe we should buddy up a bit on here. I haven't posted on the binge thread I'm working myself up to it. It is not a subject I am very comfortable with. I think because I can't fully understand and I consider it to be (in my case anyway) a form of self harming in no way is it comfort eating!

Anyway I am tentatively checking out the thread as like you I am that close to goal that I need to deal with it pretty soon. I find myself avoiding dealing with it. I can imagine I would buy the book and not get around to reading. I skim read the thread too. I need to fess up and comfront my demons. Maybe we can help each other with that. Maybe we can each promise to read up on the issue and discuss from time to time. I guess I should have posted this on the 'other' thread.

Do you understand why I am finding it difficult to face. To be honest I am quite surprised really! I would have thought I would be eager to confront it full on (as you seem to be!)

Said enough I think!

Dizzy x

Hi Dizzy, I've not been posting too much lately but your last post struck a chord with me, I identify with what you say.... I have been hovering around the Binge thread too.. have started to post there a few times but never managed to submit any!!!!! I'm having a tough time right now and my mood is effecting my eating tremendously!!! It's good to feel I'm not alone:)

love xxx:D
 
Hi Dizzy, I've not been posting too much lately but your last post struck a chord with me, I identify with what you say.... I have been hovering around the Binge thread too.. have started to post there a few times but never managed to submit any!!!!! I'm having a tough time right now and my mood is effecting my eating tremendously!!! It's good to feel I'm not alone:)

love xxx:D

Nice for me too! PM me anytime if you don't want to post I'm usually around.

Speak to you soon.

Dizzy x
 
Hi folks, I'm still keeping that weight off so very happy here (sorry to sound smug, I know I'll be heavier after my holiday so you can laugh at me then). I've started taking antibiotics for this stomach bug, I just feel it won't go away by itself (11 days now). It messed up my eating yesterday, I didn't dare have much that wasn't carbs for fear of making things worse. But I'm feeling brighter today so I can be sensible.

Nic, I got to the stage I couldn't SS any more, even if I'd been allowed to which on Cambridge I wasn't. You're on LL aren't you? They SS right through, and for me that would have been too hard. For the last few pounds and the maintenance I've had to flounder about a bit to find what is right for my body, lifestyle and food preferences. I've certainly made more "mistakes" (read mini binges) since starting food again, but I can also put them right quickly . And, as Marylyn has pointed out, once your calorie intake has increased it is easy to drop it down for a day or two to counteract those moments of madness. I'm sure you'll find the right way for you, maybe you feel happier to SS for now, or just not ready to make any decisions yet. I'm sure Germany will be great, I'm going with my husband and sister (she speaks German) so should have fun.

Dizzy, sounds like you had a great time in Germany too. I love the Christmas markets there (hate marzipan so I'm safe from stollen!). I can see where you are coming from with your final stone worries, it is difficult to be handling food again. SS is so easy in that there are almost no decisions to make. Following a maintenance plan does at least provide a structure, and I was surprised with mine that I'm still losing slowly.
 
Hi Girls

I've been reading your posts and I think we're all of the same mind - in that we certainly want to reach our goal weight, but we really shouldn't do it in any gruelling kind of way.

I was asking a very experienced CDC how to lose the final stone and she said you have to be very strict, have two "diets" and a meal and drink lots and lots of water.

She's not my CDC, but a friend of my CDC and is qualified to give medical advice.

I count my 750 some days and others I don't bother. My weight has stabilized again now and I'm o.k. with that this side of Christmas.

Maybe I'll be losing ounces weekly instead of pounds, that's cool.

The thing is with only one stone to go and less for others, lucky lucky ones, just don't get complacent.

Remember keeping your new figure will be the real challenge.

Love and hugs to all
Marylyn xxx
 
Hi guys, I haven't been on here for a bit either. Kind of don't feel like I'm even on a diet anymore anyway as have been increasing my food intake slowly and am now taking much more liberty with it as was very, very strict before. Was supposed to be on 1200 now but flat out refused to buy 14 packs a week as bank balance says no and my CDC recommended I eat more like 1500 otherwise I may become underweight (her words not mine). Lost 1lb last week and down to 9 st 3 now. Fitting into size 10 trousers with ease but still prefer to wear size 12 tops (damn my horrid large back).

Currently eating: a CD bar in the car on the way to work, a bowl of porridge or weetabix with skimmed for lunch or sometimes a brown tuna and sweetcorn pitta, an apple and perhaps a low GI homemade muesli bar which I have convinced myself is healthy (!), sardines on a tiny slice of granary toast when I get back home, maybe a muller light and some stir fried chicken with veg later or even some pasta like I had tonight with tuna. Phew, it sounds so much when I put it like that!! In fact with that amount of food, I am never going to lose the last 3 lbs!!

Pigged out something rotten at the weekend so didn't deserve to lose any at tonights weigh in. Was very lucky I was still 9 stone 3 as felt enormous all week (CDC said it is guilt!!). Had a stupendous amount of alcohol, including cocktails, a YUMMY hot chocolate with whipped cream and marshmallows, some carrot cake, deep fried mozerella, a pizza :eek:, some banoffee cheesecake, half a tub of Ben and Jerrys AND a little pick and mix :eek::eek::eek:. Very healthy as you can see. But if I can do that occasionally and be sensible the rest of time, I'll be a happy bunny.

Hope I didn't make any of you guys hungry!! Take care all - I'm off to pub quiz...
 
Nice to hear you're doing so well Jubbly.

Hope all is still well with the job too. Woo hoo on your current weight and clothes sizes.

Dizzy x
 
Well done Nic, once you've made your mind up you'll have no problem losing again.

Jubbly, I'm still in the "wow I can really have that now" category, but being fairly restrained. As long as we don't gain weight I think eating a bit more now is good, it gives us more room to cut down later if we want to go down a bit further. 9st3 is brilliant, I'm not even aiming that far.

Marylyn, I know CDCs are very keen on doing this by the book, but it really wasn't working for me, if I don't like a diet I can't stick with it once it gets complicated. I agree that slow is the way to go now.
 
Oh no - what's happened? Don't panic, even if you ate everything you could get in your mouth you could only have been at it a short while. Have some more water and tell yourself Christmas is the time for treats, only 2 weeks to wait.

I'm trying to keep calm prior to our flight early tomorrow, I'm rather OC and have to check everything 20 times!
 
How did I ever do it?

I asked myself this week when I was so cold at work and I had made 2 shakes for breakfast which I had at 10.30 a.m. When 2.00 p.m. arrived I was so ready for something else.

SSing did begin in June and it was so much easier then. I really feel for anyone starting this kind of thing now in Winter. I'm quite content to have something healthy when I need it and keep my calories at a maintenance level.

It will be such a doddle to lose the stone when Spring time comes. It's a shame that we are entering the bleakest time of year with the most challenging last few pounds to lose, but as I've said, there's no need to make it painful.

Let's look forward to Christmas and having a little bit of what you fancy shouldn't do any harm. I'm going to enjoy making adult smoothies.

Well done Nic for having the determination to sole-source for such a long time. You deserve a break, but if you want to you can still keep yourself in mild ketosis by making particular choices. I'm sure your advisor will help.

I'm still waiting for results, but bearing in mind there are other bits from other people to go under the microscope I won't be holding my breath this side of 2006. I looked up insulin resistance on "Google" and there are some more details about it if you want to go on there.

My internet is sky and it's absolutely dreadful. Some days I can't access the internet at all, so if you don't hear from me you know why.

I'll take the opportunity of wishing you all a Happy Christmas and New Year. Take good care of yourselves.

Marylyn xxx
 
Hi girls

Well marilyn has put things into perspective..yet again. cheers!x Ive been on/off...managing shakes breakfats/lunch then eating at night..been bingeing a bit lately!! Arggghh noit chuffed with myself!

Im planning to get back on it tomorrows til christmas and save treats til then , i know i will be so much happier if i know ive not let myself down too much...two weeks could shify half a stone eh??

M, good luck with your results..keep us posted hun!

Hugs all round..

Nic
x:eek:
 
I've managed to get on the internet!

:) The really great thing about Lipotrim and Cambridge and probably for any type of milkshake diet is that having been on it for a good length of time you lose your addiction for carbs. When I did "Slimming World" diet, I was forever craving, cornflakes, or bread and the advice on that is to keep eating chicken or meat and I just couldn't.

I've lost another kilo and this is through my 750 calorie plan. I love to have 2 CD diets to make a pint of breakfast and this keeps me feeling really comfortable for 4 hours.

I did have some indulgence tonight, I don't say because it will only lead you all into temptation and you can resist anything but that.

Tomorrow, however, I promise to have 3 shakes only and 2 litres of water as a penance. (You can tell I'm a R.C)

Have any of you girls heard of Reiki? Some of you may know I'm suffering with whiplash for over a year. My CDC took me to a Reiki master and I had a session. It has had a remarkable effect. It is an ancient Eastern complimentary therapy which Doctors and Nurses use and anyone who cares to learn. No one really understands why it works, it just does.

A friend of mine has just started the Lipotrim study with another girl and they are finding it very hard. So it is no wonder we find it difficult to sole-source. As you know there is the "honeymoon period" with a vlcd, the initial great weight loss, lots of motivation.

However, I think this time of year must really be the worst time to start, especially with festivities around the corner and your energy resources trying to keep you warm. I'm sure I'd just be permanently wrapped up in a Duvet looking like the Michelin Man, remember him? so who'd notice whether I was getting thinner anyway!

Anyway let's continue to be amazing in our own way - I never cease to be amazed at what you girls can tuck away when you get the munchies. I bet you nibble at all these goodies little and often really don''t you?

Lots of hugs to you all
Marylyn xxx
 
as your resident lurker I can tell you that SS'ing at this time of year isn't toooooo bad (although I am struggling at the mo). I don't think I could have started out on it atthis time of year though.. I probably would have done the "I'll just get through Christmas" routine. Chris Evans said on his show last night that the average person has 8,500 calories on Christmas Day alone!!! So... I shall feel even more smug when I have my 450! lol You continue to inspire me and inform me about what life will be like (hopefully) for me late in 2007. :D
 
:D You're doing brilliantly FF&40ish!:D :D :D

No one would expect you to stay SS'ing over Christmas, but if you do manage to resist all the temptations it certainly will keep you in the comfort zone that is ketosis.;)

I would think that if you came out of ketosis at this time of year, it would be very difficult, not impossible, but just very, very hard to get back into it, in Winter anyway.:( :(

It is always harder getting back into ketosis when you have a break anyway. I know, as I had 2 breaks over 6 months during my Lipotrim journey. Each return was hard and retrospectively I regretted the first break, because I've never known hunger like it.:eek: :eek: :eek:

On my second break during a sunny fortnight in Cyprus I had Lipotrim and also food, like I do on Cambridge now and I lost weight over that period. However, that was it with SS'ing for me. I kept trying and failing :( and reconciled myself to the fact I just needed a break from it,:) but I'm still losing weight with Cambridge having picked the calories up to 750 and I lose around a kilo a week.:D

So, how will things be for you for next year? Keep as motivated as you are and you should keep losing weight. As you are in ketosis your appetite will be suppressed and you shouldn't feel hungry. :cool: :)

You are not on your own finding SS'ing hard. Two girls I know have just started LT and are really struggling.:( :(

I'm sure you know you shouldn't sole-source for more than 4 weeks at a time unless you are under medical supervision. I have to say that, because some people don't realise.;)

Lastly, having given the warnings above, if you decide to join in the festivities and keep yourself in a state of mild ketosis, (turkey & sprouts will keep you there), have a tipple (ketosis out the window) - basically do whatever suits you - it won't be the end of the world if you do gain a bit - will it?;)

You may even find that if you manage to keep to 790 cals, keep it low carb, you even lose some more weight.

I have a message for all the girls in the last stone mission while I think of it so see below.

Have a Happy Christmas!

Marylyn xxx




 
Who likes sprouts?

I remember reading that one of those American slim girls from a programme about wives eats a lot of them, because it takes more energy to digest them than the calories they contain, so perhaps we should be having lots with our Christmas turkey. The more you eat - the slimmer you get apparently on sprouts.

I also read how Dolly Parton lost all her weight years ago. I'm not recommending it to anyone, but there may be a message in it for all of us. She used to eat on one day and fast the next day. It worked for her and you can see that her body was never getting the message that she was starving it, because she was eating on alternate days. This should give hope to people who plateau.

Olijames (Nic) I have to tell you every time the Doctor said to me "You have to try and be realistic" - you know when I hit the plateau on 500 cals - I used to almost weep when I heard that phrase. I'm a Piscean and we are dreamers, I couldn't reconcile myself with being "realistic" for a month.

You sole-sourcers mustn't be frightened of putting weight on if you can't handle the sole-source thing for now. I put on my "realistic" head after a month of plateau on 500 calories, I should have been sticking to my 420 calories, but couldn't, so I increased my calorie count to 750 cals, got more active and started to lose weight again.

I have a confession to make - I'm going to have to do my "penance" another day for the naughtiness of yesterday, because I took meat out of the freezer and I don't want to waste it.

Hey girls, it doesn't really matter when I have a lean, lean day as long as I have it some day during the week.

Please be easy on yourselves too. Look how far you have all come - keep your eye on your goal, but even when our "mission" is accomplished - we will all have to work at keeping slim and the strategies that we are employing now in our daily struggles to get to our goal will be the same strategies that we will need to call on when we're watching the scales.

Hugs to all
Marylyn xxx

 
Thanks Marilyn.

I have to stick to SS'ing as I can't face the prospect of coming out of ketosis - getting into it was very very painful physcally and the thought of having to go through that again is enough of a deterrent (I was really ill).

I do know about the 4 week rule and have arranged my AAM week to run from 23rd -29th December so I shall have a slice of turkey and some veg.. but am NOT going to touch any carbs! I HAVE to stick to CD absolutely 100% or I will never lose this weight. PLUS, I am NOT going to have a cpap machine if I can help it (see my diary). So you see, I have already determined how my Christmas will be.. lol

It will definitely be the end of the world if I gain even an ounce! I am in this for the long haul. NO WAY am I going to blow it for the sake of a drink or a mince pie! My life and well being means so much more to me than indulging in food and alcohol. I do find it tough but the goal is so worth it.

I have 2 gorgeous girls who will be helping me stick to it too, they have already promised to keep any temptations tucked away in their bedrooms so they are not in my face!

I shall have a lovely Christmas, without all the calories! I already go out loads and just drink water so it's only another few times of doing that with the addition of tinsel and party hats!

Thanks for the encouragement and kind words. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas time too. :D xx
 
Good for you!

You're very motivated and this is the vital ingredient that is needed to stick with vlcds.

So this Christmas you will abstain, but sparkling water with the CD powder and ice is lovely jubbly isn't it?

There is always something that crops up during the year - wherever we are in the year that can interfere with our good intentions if we allow them to.

This crux of the matter is: We don't have to go with everyone else's flow. Another interesting fact is this, if you don't mention that you are dieting, there are occasions when no one would even notice - people are too engrossed in other things, conversation, how much more wine they want to drink, and what is on their own plate.

When we went away in August for a family celebration I had a quiet word with chef to prepare a low carb meal for me. Nobody knew except my immediate family. We had a laugh about it.

The next day at the barbeque no one noticed what I ate. It caused problems for me because it was 2 months into Lipotrim and I hadn't learnt how to deal with coming out of ketosis. I got very, very hungry and although I kept in control it was a miserable week getting back into it. So, you know all about that too.

It's lovely that your girls will be supporting you - hang in there because the rewards are so worth it.

Marylyn with only 10lbs left to goal, but doesn't know how to fix the sticker thingy. xxx
 
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