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[BordersGirl]

I'm having 4 packs, no veg, no milk but that is my choice. Others might do the same, or they might use their allowance. You do need to find what is best for you, no two people are the same

And that's the truth of it. For a VLCD this diet is so flexible and you need to find something that suits you personally. If that's just the packs then that's what you do, if you need a 'real' meal then have the protein and veg instead of a pack. And you can change your mind every day depending on your mood. Don't focus on what you can't have, focus on what you can, and how successful the diet will be for you. What's better, being able to eat bread and potatoes or being slim and healthy? I chose the latter.

 

[bubbs67]

So glad you came to that decision hun, we are all here to support

You can do it Xx

Thanks Rebekah. If I can't do 4 packs then I'll do 3 pack plus meal. Thanks I know I'll do it with support xxx

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[bubbs67]

I have asthma and arthritis in both knees. On antidepressants so I should not smoke with asthma but I have an a strong electronic cig being delivered this week so hopefully this will work. I've nothing to lose by giving it a go. Except weight of course haha. Another girl is doing it with Ecig and she's doing well. thanks xxx

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[bubbs67]

And that's the truth of it. For a VLCD this diet is so flexible and you need to find something that suits you personally. If that's just the packs then that's what you do, if you need a 'real' meal then have the protein and veg instead of a pack. And you can change your mind every day depending on your mood. Don't focus on what you can't have, focus on what you can, and how successful the diet will be for you. What's better, being able to eat bread and potatoes or being slim and healthy? I chose the latter.

Thanks Borders Girl I didn't know that. Oh this gets even better. Yeah I lost so slow on SW it was unbelievable. I couldn't understand why I wasn't losing. WW I've old plan but looking at the PP I'll be there forever. I was in tears last night coz a size 26 was getting to small on me. Thankyou Bordersgirl im choosing the latter too. Especially with all the support on here. This diet sounds amazing. I know the first week is hard. But I have to remember it gets easier. My Hubby is behind me. He wants me to do it so that's it.

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[BordersGirl]

If you've got support of someone at home that's half the battle. It's the ones at home who dis the diet, make comments and eat things that you love in front of you just to annoy who make it more difficult. Write a long list of the reasons why you want to lose weight and why you don't. I bet there are more reasons to lose the weight than not. I've never felt healthier having lost pretty much 6 stone. No going back to Evans or Simply B for me!

 

[Lord LuLu]

Sorry to butt in but have just seen you mentioned you're on steroids - I know steroids can cause high blood sugar and I from what I've read high blood sugar + ketones is not a good mix. I would talk to your doctor or nurse before starting.

 

[jacobsmummy1]

I think I may have read somewhere that her GP has already given her the go ahead

 

[munchbunch]

I think I may have read somewhere that her GP has already given her the go ahead

I read this in an earliera post too x

 

[Lord LuLu]

I think I may have read somewhere that her GP has already given her the go ahead

I read this in an earliera post too x

I saw that but I read that as gave her the go-ahead to do a VLCD whilst on anti-depressants not steroids...

"Can you still get into ketosis if on antidepressants. I am well. I did ask my GP and he gave me the go ahead?"

I'm presuming the steroids/antibiotics for the chest infection are a short term thing and only recently prescribed hence being on them til Thursday so thought it best to highlight it just in case.

 

[munchbunch]

Never thought to be honest !!

All she can do is see how things go really x

 

[bubbs67]

Hi I'm back my GP did give me the go ahead being on antidepressants yes. The steroids are short term. Didnt realize that steroids effect ketones. And maybe my old GP doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't know. I'll just do WW and be done with it. Just in case. It might make me more depressed going without food. Don't like the pictures of hairloss either my hairs bleached and in a bad way. And don't fancy using laxatives either although I know it doesn't happen to everyone. Wish I had the money to join LL with a support group. Which would be the best thing for me me. Got to give up smoking anyway. Thanks everyone slowly but surely for me now.

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[Lord LuLu]

Steroids don't affect ketones but they can cause high blood sugar which when combined with ketosis can be very dangerous so I'm pleased to hear your GP didn't give the go ahead to combine the two as that would be worrying!

If the steroids are only short term why don't you just hold off starting til you're off them - VLCD's are soooooo motivating as the weight truly falls off. You can use this forum as your support group as we are all in the same boat.

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[Starlight]

Bubba you're focussing on the negatives too much. Hair loss affects a small number of people, I was at the hairdresser last week and she commented on how thick my hair was. and not everyone needs laxatives. In fact fewer people need them on S&S than other Vlcds.

If you have a lot to lose a VLCD is a great idea. You could be at target by February 2013 on a VLCD. It'll take at least another year longer on WW. S&S is a great compromise. You get the fast weight loss but can still eat

Be sure and weigh up all the pros and cons before you decide.

 

[Lord LuLu]

Agree with Starlight. I've been lucky and had zero negative side effects, no hair loss, no constipation. I was prepared for them to happen as I'd rather have to take laxatives and have thin hair for a few months than carry on being morbidly obese. When I started I was a size 20, probably 22 if I'm honest. Less than 6 months later I'm a size 14, something I haven't been for well over a decade! You say that you will do WW - have you done WW before and have you managed to stick to it to lose a decent chunk of weight in the past? If not what makes you think WW is the way to go this time? As cheesy as it sounds Slim and save (and Exante) has changed my life and it could change yours if you let it!

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[GetItRightx]

I'm also another voter for VLCDs if you want to see results quick or have a lot to lose, I went from a size 20/22 to a 12/14 in 4 months. I know I wouldn't of been able to do that on weight watchers in that amount of time. Of course we can't tell you what to do as its your choice, but I've "been" to the toilet more often on a VLCD than I have on any other diet. I have IBS and haven't had a "attack" for so long. Also with hair loss, some people will suffer, but I'm another one who hasn't suffered, infact I was at the hairdressers the other day for a consultation on hair colour and she commented that my hair was in brilliant condition. Before dieting my hair was a mess! Horrible condition after dying & bleaching it too often.

My boyfriend doesn't 100% agree with VLCDs, but hes letting me get on with it Hes noticed my weight loss and so have loads of other people so my confidence has gone through the roof! My skin is now great the only thing I will say is a bit pants is I get cramps a lot, like period type ones, but I have the coil so that probably affects it too.

You need to decide what is best for you chick. This forum is great for support as we are all in the same boat

xo.

 

[BordersGirl]

It's definitely the speed that works for me. I worked out how long I would have been on WW / SW for and it was just too depressing. Plus I'd never managed to stick to a diet like WW before anyway, as a cheat became a big cheat and then I was back to square 1. Because this diet is disciplined and has very set quantities it works for me and 6 stone later the weight has fallen off and I feel great. I've got another stone to go but that's not nearly so urgent now and I'm happy to take the scenic route for the last bit. I've just had stir fry veggies and prawns (in Frylight), a massive 130 calories and I feel completely stuffed (and happy).

 

[bubbs67]

Well I was thinking can it make Depression worse? I'm on anti depressants.
I do have to stop smoking. I finish my steroids tomorrow. So could start Thursday. Got an Ecig coming. Will it be hard with an Ecig? As an Ecig doesn't have all the chemicals of a real cig which you also get addicted to. I know another girl on here is doing it with an Ecig and she was doing ok. Thanks for all your support. Like I said had me heart set on this diet. And no I know side effects doesn't happen to everyone. Thanks in advance if anyone knows if it can make depression worse it would be a great help if anyone knows. I'm on antidepressants and my GP has given me the go ahead. So I presume it doesn't but just want to know as my GP is quick to get ppl out the door lol

 

[munchbunch]

I have to say the losses are quick , if you want quick weight loss this kind of diet is for you .
The depression I'm really not sure about tbh sorry !!

I have had hair loss on lipotrim & constipation on both but as I said in a previous post I don't like veg or salad so massive contribution to the fact I can't go to the bathroom tbh . I think if you look at the positives you'll go far what ever diet you choose !!

Good luck x

 

[RebekahR]

My depression and ocd have been better if anything, seeing changes and focusing on the plan keeps my mind from my usual compulsions.

I'm never constipated and my hair is the healthiest its been in years. If you do get ant trouble there are simple things that help

For me the losses are worthwhile and I've felt pretty good, able to workout etc since I started

Start a journal and check in, you can do it hun x

 

[bubbs67]

I've made up my mind. Thanks for all you well wishes and support. It's a no brainer for me. I'm starting S&S Thursday when I finish my steroids. I don't have to give up smoking but would be good if I could manage on the Ecig. I don't care if I do get hairloss. I know it will grow back. I weigh about 18st and a size 26/28 and so fed up as Evans is sold out in that size sometimes even that size is getting a bit tight now. Hey Bordersgirl I always binge on WW too. Buying their WW meals and cakes etc just makes want more. I like the sound of PP anyway. I've heard a lot of bad press about PP and can't do much exercise coz of arthritis and Breathlessness. And Starlight that would be brilliant if I could be at goal by February wow!!! I'm starting Thursday. Just say I did get hairloss and Laxatives I could just try using Laxatives a couple of times a week or something. Thanks Lord Lulu for that advice about Steroida. I saw my GP before my chest infection started. If I can be at goal by February then I can give up smoking then. Or try it with the Ecig as I'm a heavy smoker and tbh it's costing me a fortune smoking but I can afford it lol. Thanks for all your help and support. It's brilliant. Read through all the stickies too on all the VLCDs on here. I shouldn't think my depression will get worse. If it does then they can up the dose. Lol. I'm lucky that my antidepressants don't cause more appetite like some. Can't wait to start now. Thanks Starlight Bordersgirl and Lord lulu. At my hairdresser is mobile and brilliant so I'm sure she will look after my hair. I always have a Brazillian Blowdry nor a Brazillian lol. It's a straightening perm where you don't have to use straigteners. My hairs fine but have loads of it. But I'd rather have hairloss and like you said Starlight I'm looking on the negatives. Thanks so so much Starlight, Bordersgirl and Lordlulu most of my depression is caused from being morbidly obese anyway. So self conscious about it. And fed up with only being able to go in one shop or SimplyBe!!!'