just to let u know nic - wen i went to the chemist - i told her i had slight pains in my bladder area, and imediatly she asked how much i was drinking, i told her 6ltrs, and she went mad at me! (well not horrible) but she sed i shudnt be having more than 3 ltrs as it can and does flood your kidneys - hence why i never get ketosis measured in urine - i have slowed down to 4ltrs (maybe 3 1/2) and pain has gone, weight loss increased! and also can always detect ketones, she sed it flushes a portion of the nutrients as well! so not too bad you drinkin a lil less!