IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, try try try again and again (and again...)

[sarafvrm]

Yes, I echo Chris in saying I'd miss you if you moved your diary, even though I haven't known you as long as she has.

I completely understand why you're 'doing it your way' now. I'm sick to death of pp days and can't help thinking life would be so much easier and more enjoyable with lots of fruit and veg. Good luck over the next 11 weeks - should lose the excess weight no problem as the big day looms x

 

[trudyc]

Oh Jo will miss you if you move!!!! You were such a help when I first started Dukan, keeping me on the right path with some great advice and I will always be grateful to you for that! Good luck with your diet plans for the wedding, 75 kg is not a disaster and will very soon be less...........GOOD LUCK! x

 

[ellie1969]

I also would miss you... keep posting your news here even though you are no longer dukaning xx

 

[Maintainer]

Thank you ladies.

For the "unlimited" side of things, I'm obviously finding that a little tough and am still probably overeating on the old protein I put in my salads. I know it's just because I'm petrified of "hunger" and I will have to learn to deal with that in time. For now, the weight is dropping nicely as that part of the weight gain was taken in a week. I went to the UK at 72K and want 68K for my wedding, so that's where I'll have to look a little more closely.

My sister and a good friend have lost 2 stone each on Slimming World. I won't follow that plan, because it's too carby for my liking (and some fruits/foods still raise alarm bells to me - thank you Dukan not!). However it has given me a little more confidence that one can eat very well AND keep one's weight off, something I never quite managed to do with Dukan once out of ketosis.

So sticking to salads for now, muffins still there, veg... fruit but just the one in the week. Trying to ENJOY my food. Today, for instance, we have a departure and a birthday in my small group of 10 so there is cake and champagne planned. I know how to avoid it, but won't. I need to learn how to deal with a small portion and no guilt!

That's me for now!

 

[scrumper]

do leave me Jo xxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Maintainer]

do? don't?! LOL! Talk about upside down talk from the Aussie!

 

[scrumper]

lol you got me !!! ....so what ya losing on protien heavy salads ? ....im annoyed with myself but i cant see dukan kicking in this time and me living on it ..... im dropping as much carb as possible after attack going to keep the oatbran going and do veg and protien......got to deal with the hunger issues ...and the tiredness that makes me just binge .......

 

[Maintainer]

Well Tan, coming from where I was (full of sugar and carbs), I knew I'd have a fast initial weight loss initially in any event. Which is happening but, this time, I didn't weigh myself on Tuesday 19, my day one (far too depressing), so my day four weigh in Friday showed 75.1K. I went to the UK at 72... and, given my September wedding (did you know?!), I want to be 68K. I'm not looking for a ridiculous target, cos it only comes straight back!

I'm eating muffins for breakfast still. So far large mixed salads, with (too much) protein, one fruit and 0% yoghurt. I had a piece of birthday cake yesterday instead of my fruit. I need to learn normality! No great hike upward on the scales!

I saw Mandy while in England... she looks brilliant!

How's Oz? Are you staying?

 

[Maintainer]

Morning Campers!
A lovely weigh in this morning D), but I know the journey will be tougher henceforth. My wedding is 11 weeks tomorrow, although I bow out of the forum a week earlier so I'd be thrilled to be back in the 69.somethings by then.
As said above, next week my focus will be on "normalising" the protein to veg ratio. I took spare chicken each day to work this week, and ate half each day just because it was there really, so it will not be accompanying me next week. I'll be alone evenings next week, as my fiancé (aaah I don't find that natural to say) will be returning to country to continue renovations on the fourth bedroom. Given that two people (who've never met each other) will be sleeping in there in September (two double blow up beds!), we now have to get it to a condition that makes that possible.
Tomorrow we'll be meeting a couple of friends from England (the female of the couple I initially met on Minimims, on a different forum!). They've been holidaying in the South of France and are heading up to Calais, breaking their journey with a night's camping... near to where our house is . We'l walk their dogs and have lunch together.
Sunday is the next village's 7km away vide grenier (think car boot sale without cars!). We'll be going, even if I have to walk there and ask a grubby from DIYing OH to pick me up.

I'm finding I have more time to myself without Dukan. Less food prep required! This is an interesting plus I hadn't considered before.

 

[scrumper]

Firstly WOW on the Wedding ( about time to lol ) .........September the what ????:553: im sure you will be where you need to be by then xxx

Ok so im probably about where you are the sugar and carb monster back in my life ..... tuesday i was 83 k and today im 79k so lots of water and rubbish .... I cant let dukan rule my life though as its a cycle i wont get off of ......

im on attack today and then tomorrow am doing the high protien with veg and salads and then pray the weight still comes off ... dukan isnt for me any more full on but ive taken some of its principles and will keep them .... I am too scared to even try fruit lol !!!


Im working next term in the pool some days from 8.30 till 2.30 so i will get about 2 15 minute breaks so im looking for something to put in there ...too be honest im sick of the thought of chicken or meat with out salad or veg .... Im hoping that a protien heavy salad will get me through like you the hunger is the worst thing and grabbing for anything quick usually means carbs ...anyway you know where im coming from ...

 

[scrumper]

As for Oz yep we are staying putting in for residency in the next few weeks ..... where we live is a transient town very expensive due to the mining boom and full of very rude mainly english i may add people out to make a fast buck ....im hoping in a couple of years we will go further north to Cairns way ...oh would like to go down towards Sydney ...but as i find im cold in 18 degrees now I would freeze down that way lol

 

[Maintainer]

oooh lovely to have a proper catch up... and I'm glad things are working out so well for you all in Oz. Any photos?

yes I think we've reached the same conclusions our oh too frequent abuse of the Dukan plan.

I figured I'd give something else a shot this time as I have loads of motivation, haven't been in ketosis for yonks anyway, and my weight seems to be yoyoing less crazily now. Whether I'll be able to stop binge eating one day is anyone's guess but, at least when I'm not, I'll be eating more healthily!

I really was overdoing the old protein intake and know it's because I don't like being hungry... having said that, rediscovering hunger really is a new thing to me. As I'm usually either Dukaning or "EATING" (intentional caps...), I never knew hunger!

September 15 is the big day (well it's going to be small - just not as small as I'd originally intended apparently... currently waiting for numbers to confirm)... I'll be off work from Sept 7 though so off board.

 

[scrumper]

aww 2 days after my birthday !! hope it goes well and at least you are having time to plan it i think i planned ours in less than a month lol !!!! but then we didnt have guests ....

yep me and you are out of the same shell I so where you are ....last night I had weighed after tea which was a bonus and im 78k after 6 days on and thats two days with some salad thrown in so a lot of rubbish came off , for once i didnt hit the sabbotage button ... as i need to get this weight off ...
I know now it will come of slower so thats why im going to basicly pv it and pp one day a week and hope after the months of abuse the weight doesnt maintain but still comes off .....

keep me posted on wedding plans where theme ect lol ....has vicky done the deed yet lol?

as for photos i had loads on facebook but have deactivated it for a while to get a normal life was taking over...... will try and put a few on here if i get a chance minis loads awful on my phone so have to wait till i am near a computer .....

 

[ellie1969]

not long now till the wedding I fly to geneva wednesday, stay overnight in Argonay then onto chambery for a few days then grenoble, nice & monaco ... cant wait

 

[Maintainer]

Hopefully Ellie's having nice weather on her hols

My week hasn't been great, but could have been a lot worse. Alone during the evenings last week, I ate far too much. All "healthy" stuff, but way overboard on the quantities, particularly as I was just about to go to bed! The result on the scales last Friday was predictable, but my brain took offence and led me further astray at the weekend.

My initial reaction was to cut right back as per usual on a Monday, but that's precisely how I yoyo my weight through the week/month, so I resisted and haven't (yet) plonked a Dukan PP day somewhere in my week. I'm sticking to salads, gradually rectifying the protein dose to a more normal one. I'm still having my muffins in the morning. Plus a fruit each day weekdays. More at the weekend. Particularly if I get the munchies.

I'm on "holiday" from tomorrow night for 10 days - it'll be mainly for wedding organising (food for the post ceremony drink and nibble with the village, flower order to place, seeing the Mayor with my paperwork (fingers crossed they don't find something I've forgotten), trial run with the hairdresser...

As things currently stand, there'll be about 50-60 at the drinks/nibbles do, 22 for the wedding lunch. I'll have 4 overnight guests for a week arriving the Wednesday before, rising to 7 for three nights (I have one bathrom and one loo... plenty of buckets though!)

There'll be up to 22 people the Thursday night for a buffet (depending on time of arrival from UK). Defininitely 24 the evening before the (11am) wedding for a BBQ (paper plates only for that one!)...; and our participation in the village car boot sale to organise for 6am the morning after the wedding! So lots of organising for that side of things more than the wedding really. (Just imagine how many times I'll have to boil the kettle if someone wants a cuppa!)

I'm hopeful as time nears that the stress everyone mentions will take over and make the weight just drop off me (cos I can't say it's happening yet, despite the odd bridezilla moment!!).

So that's me... learning 'normality' around food, but still rather confused about quantities. As for hunger, I still can't go there... preferring to eat before real hunger takes over. I am preparing meals in advance and hanging on as long as I dare but I definitely have issues around that, and these issues haven't been dealt with by my using and abusing the Dukan diet for so long. I am a little less manic about food though, and don't think about it every minute of every day any more (weddings do have that advantage!)

See you all late July...

 

[anjuschka]

HI Jo,

I know you're away but just wanted to take to opportunity to say hello! things here are busy so I get to read the minimins e-mail when they do get sent but rarely get time to come up here, and then the e-mail stop too I do have a 'diary' in the making though, keep adding to it every now and then will post soon (but need my bed now)!

I could have written that:

My initial reaction was to cut right back as per usual on a Monday, but that's precisely how I yoyo my weight through the week/month, so I resisted and haven't (yet) plonked a Dukan PP day somewhere in my week. I'm sticking to salads, gradually rectifying the protein dose to a more normal one. I'm still having my muffins in the morning. Plus a fruit each day weekdays. More at the weekend. Particularly if I get the munchies.

While I am still following Dukan, I agree with you there. It encourages the ‘just grab a piece of chicken from the fridge’ mentality which is now getting me into trouble. I don’t really recall doing much random snacking before, except at designated times and I really need to get back there.
I am still doing the PP day, but not extra-white, so I had a nice helping of Salmon on Monday. My weight never jo-joed from a PP day anyway... As I said before I can do a PP, easily declining nibbles and wine as a social event last Monday evening and clutching my bottle of water instead! I am not normally plagued by hunger, it’s all just habit and comfort eating though. A snack when the kids get home - after all they’re having something because they *are* ravenous - and today I was too so I had a yoghurt.
But yes I am making sure to have some bread, cheese and ONE piece of fruit every day, also allow myself one fruit yoghurt. I just need to lose a little bit more before I can go back to total Stabilization mode, I have managed to keep going for months in the past with no gains so I should be able to get back there. But once you get to the 'over' area where I am now and are trying to get 'back' it all becomes more complicated and every little slip becomes an excuse for more. Anyway, this week good so far (more in the diary I haven't yet posted!). Except I skipped the run tonight - the weather finally got me! And that after managing to keep going through the whole winter! Tonight was just one downpour too far!

Oh and my mum is still happily stabilized, but as I said before her lifestyle is so different to mine and my dad has a bit of a digestive problem which means he eats very small portions all the time now so we can't really compare. I have a DH who will happily demolish most of a packet of chocolate digestives in one sitting and then have cheese and biscuits an hour later. Oh and some wine or beer most nights...

Your wedding planning sounds well under control, hope this last break will help you get it all sorted! As you know ours was a small affair too (though smaller than yours), but as we're a bit more cramped than you I farmed the family out to a local Guesthouse and sent friends a list of B&Bs ;-) And of course no problems with the bureaucracy. Don't stress too much, try to go with the flow, and it will all be fine. We had a great day. Low key and all that but very enjoyable nevertheless and no bridezilla moments either!

 

[alottolose]

Best of luck with the wedding (soon to be) Mrs

Hope it all goes well for you (can't believe you're carbooting on the first day of married life )

speak soon xxx

 

[scrumper]

carboot queen that one...have a fab organising time hun be a brideziller its yourrrrrr day ...chat soon

 

[alottolose]

MORNING!!!

How's it going? How are you doing? Where are you? What are you doing? How's the wedding prep going? Are you still doing healthy eating plan?

as you see many questions basically you've been missed! xxxx (hugs)

 

[ellie1969]

missed you also.... was thinking about your wedding prep as we were in france and seen some really pretty churches