January 2009 - Starters
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daisydoll
Gold Member
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk9 - 4.5lb off - 34.5lbs total - 31.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 9 - 1lb on - 32lbs total - 49lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Sue_P - wk 5 - 2lbs off - 16lbs total - 68 to loose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
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Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk9 - 4.5lb off - 34.5lbs total - 31.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 9 - 1lb on - 32lbs total - 49lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Sue_P - wk 5 - 2lbs off - 16lbs total - 68 to loose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
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Blonde Logic
Yes. You can.
Susiannah, sorry about your husbands job. I have just been through it, and if it is any comfort, there are loads of good jobs out there, despite the picture the media paints. Personally I have been spoilt for choice. I don;t know your husbands occupation but if it is not too highly specialised I am sure he will find good opportunitieis out there.
Keep the faith and keep positive.
Good luck!!
xx
Keep the faith and keep positive.
Good luck!!
xx
Foxtrot
Is back in the saddle!
THEY CANCELED OUR BL**DY HOLIDAY!!!!!!
Angry now!! Falling Euro and dollar etc. AND??!!???!!??? I'd already paid up front!!! We'd go on our own!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I'm struggling with now, apart from trying to find another holiday, is getting my head around the diet time line. I had it all set and laid out neatly and I knew exactly where I was going to be and what I'd be doing. I will get my head around it soon. Several people on here have complimented me on my easy attitude with this diet, which it still is!! I'm just peed off my schedule has been knocked sideways.
Angry now!! Falling Euro and dollar etc. AND??!!???!!??? I'd already paid up front!!! We'd go on our own!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I'm struggling with now, apart from trying to find another holiday, is getting my head around the diet time line. I had it all set and laid out neatly and I knew exactly where I was going to be and what I'd be doing. I will get my head around it soon. Several people on here have complimented me on my easy attitude with this diet, which it still is!! I'm just peed off my schedule has been knocked sideways.
Sean(JSF)
Making it all add up
What a b####er FT, sorry to hear about your Holiday.
May be a blessing in disguise though as you could well find a better one at lower cost (prices are falling daily at the moment), I assume you will get all cash back?
Also could give you a little longer on the RTM route, rather than having to follow the LLL plan?
Always a silver lining, but hard to see it at the moment!
May be a blessing in disguise though as you could well find a better one at lower cost (prices are falling daily at the moment), I assume you will get all cash back?
Also could give you a little longer on the RTM route, rather than having to follow the LLL plan?
Always a silver lining, but hard to see it at the moment!
susianna
Full Member
Hi
Just wanted to say thanks for all your supportive messages ... I'm sure things will be fine, we have got over the shock now and are quite positive that he will find another job although his line of work is electronics (business development/sales) and things are not good in that industry at the moment.
But onwards and upwards (or downwards for us lot!) as they say.
x
Just wanted to say thanks for all your supportive messages ... I'm sure things will be fine, we have got over the shock now and are quite positive that he will find another job although his line of work is electronics (business development/sales) and things are not good in that industry at the moment.
But onwards and upwards (or downwards for us lot!) as they say.
x
SexyBecks1
is loving CWP xx
Well done as always on all the magnificent losses.
Don't worry Daisy. After the naughty week and putting on 1lb I was hoping for a great loss this week. But it was not to be. I only lost 1lb as well
I do exercise and I find that if I stop I tend to have too much time on my hands and my mind starts to wonder (hence the bad week last week). Plus I feel so much better after a good session on the gym and I go with my OH so it's something we can do together.
Glad to see you have got yourself sorted SIIM. I know how hard it is to get back on track.
I hope you get yourself sorted Foxtrot. Maybe a quick trip to the docs is in order. Take care of yourself.
Must get back to work now.
'Speak' to you all later x x
Don't worry Daisy. After the naughty week and putting on 1lb I was hoping for a great loss this week. But it was not to be. I only lost 1lb as well
I do exercise and I find that if I stop I tend to have too much time on my hands and my mind starts to wonder (hence the bad week last week). Plus I feel so much better after a good session on the gym and I go with my OH so it's something we can do together.
Glad to see you have got yourself sorted SIIM. I know how hard it is to get back on track.
I hope you get yourself sorted Foxtrot. Maybe a quick trip to the docs is in order. Take care of yourself.
Must get back to work now.
'Speak' to you all later x x
SexyBecks1
is loving CWP xx
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk9 - 4.5lb off - 34.5lbs total - 31.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk9 - 4.5lb off - 34.5lbs total - 31.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
JessicaL
Full Member
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Foxtrot
Is back in the saddle!
Fingers crossed susianna. At least you know your food budget each week! I hope something turns up for him soon.
It was a pound off Becks!! That's going in the right direction again at least!! Keep going, it will catch up again soon.
Thanks for the positive vibes Sean. Have spent most of the day trying to sort another one and I have another booked but it took forever. Not quite the same but it's more or less the same time scale so I'm back on track with the diet thingy!! I was shocked at how much that knocked me sideways! Probably because I intend to be really focused on the RTM part this time.
It was a pound off Becks!! That's going in the right direction again at least!! Keep going, it will catch up again soon.
Thanks for the positive vibes Sean. Have spent most of the day trying to sort another one and I have another booked but it took forever. Not quite the same but it's more or less the same time scale so I'm back on track with the diet thingy!! I was shocked at how much that knocked me sideways! Probably because I intend to be really focused on the RTM part this time.
JazzyB
Full Member
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
JazzyB
Full Member
Thanks Daisydoll - I feel terrific about it too - not just about the losing the weight and getting to target but i actually feel like I have achieved something. I'm not the best at seeing things through to the end always!!
I have decided to extend my target by 3-4lbs though so will stay with my group right to the end!
I have decided to extend my target by 3-4lbs though so will stay with my group right to the end!
EmVeg
Do a little dance!
3lb off for week...which is strange seen as this is normally my pattern week of lower losses. 9lb to go!
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Foxtrot
Is back in the saddle!
Spot on target there then Em!! Well done.
My week 10 seems to have bee dropped so here it is again.
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 10 - 4lb - ....32.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
My week 10 seems to have bee dropped so here it is again.
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 10 - 4lb - ....32.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk5--4lbs off-28lb total-11lbs to go but would really like to be 20.5lb lighter so not sure what target to go for.
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Hello all!!!!!!!
I have been hibernating .----well I was away on Holiday and lapsed but so glad as only put on 3lb so only 7lb to lose in the next 2 week.
Starting RTM in 2 weeks.
Anybody else starting RTM?? I am actually confused as my LLC says the other option is to do LLL. I think she thinks I need to lose more but I want to do so while I am not in abstinence, IYSWIM.
Any advice????
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 10 - 4lb - ....32.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk11--3lbs on-35 total-7lbs to go. starting RTM in 2 weeks
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
I have been hibernating .----well I was away on Holiday and lapsed but so glad as only put on 3lb so only 7lb to lose in the next 2 week.
Starting RTM in 2 weeks.
Anybody else starting RTM?? I am actually confused as my LLC says the other option is to do LLL. I think she thinks I need to lose more but I want to do so while I am not in abstinence, IYSWIM.
Any advice????
Daisydoll - wk 11 -1lb off -36lbs total - 17 to go
Emveg - W11 - 3lb off - 46lb lost - 9lb to lose.
Foxtrot - Week 10 - 4lb - ....32.5lb from 56 lb to lose
JaneyB-wk10-4lb off-28.5lb-13.5lb to go.
JazzyB W10 -4lbs off 42lbs lost 0lb to go - but i have decided to lose another 3-4lbs as a safety net!!
JessicaL - wk10 - 2lb off - 36.5lbs total - 29.5lb to go
Louale - W11 - 3lbs off - 44total - 50.5lbs to lose
PurpleButterfly - Week 7, 1.5lb - 29lb total. 65lb total to lose
sansukh--wk11--3lbs on-35 total-7lbs to go. starting RTM in 2 weeks
Sean(JSF) - wk 11 - 7lbs - 73lbs total 17lbs to lose
SexyBecks1 - wk 10 - 1lb - 33lbs total - 48lbs to loose
SIIM - wk 11 - 5.5lbs - 41lbs total -92lbs to lose
Susianna - wk 11 - 4.6lb- Total 40lb - 50 to go
thin_inside - wk 10 - 2.5lbs off - 44 lbs total - 88lbs to lose
Westiegirl - wk 11 - 2.5lbs off - 38.5lbs total - 30.5lbs to lose
Foxtrot
Is back in the saddle!
Hi sansukh. Glad you were fairly restrained on hols!!
I'm doing another 4 weigh ins (last one on 19 April). Then doing the 4 week Lite RTM for hols at end of May then doing LLL for the excess when I get back. So probably thinking the same as you re the full abstinence bit.
See, I knew I had it straight in my head.
I'm doing another 4 weigh ins (last one on 19 April). Then doing the 4 week Lite RTM for hols at end of May then doing LLL for the excess when I get back. So probably thinking the same as you re the full abstinence bit.
See, I knew I had it straight in my head.
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