one other thing i meant to mention, has anyone heard of 5htp? i started taking it as it helps me sleep, it is a herbal/amino acid thing i think, i got it from Holland and barrett. But I've not took it for ages and i completely forgot how amazing it is for killing your appetite, it definitely helped me reduce my calorie intake on my boredom/night-time binges. I am just going to throw every idea and method i can at my weight loss. I take magnesium bisglycinate and a good vitamin-B complex as it stops me getting moody during that time-of-the-month but i will see if the vitamins and minerals in the packs are sufficient xx