Scrumbles' diary...life after losing a third of me...

A downward zig zag sounds pretty good to me! Great that you're holding firm on the up part of zig zag! It seems to work ... Great news! And yes it's lovely to be back!! Lol xxx
 
Morning!

An UP day dawns, so I am happy :D

Yesterday wasn't much better in spite of constantly drip-feeding myself soup all day. Mind you, it wasn't particularly nice soup, so that probably didn't help!

Because of the issues I'm having with DD's, I went and looked at a bunch of diaries in the JUDDD section, and it would seem I'm not alone. The first week or so can be a real struggle for some, and I would appear to be among that number. The worst thing is the lack of energy - I feel as limp as a rag doll on DD's and don't want to do anything. If that feeling doesn't pass in time, I'll definitely have to quit.

At least this coming week I will only have myself to cater for as OH is away, so on DD's I won't be having to make meals for him that I can't eat. Hopefully I'll be more accustomed to them by the time he gets back, plus, I can up my cals on DD's to something less drastic by then, and that should help too.

Weigh in this morning was 186.6lbs, so that's about a pound and a half down on my starting weight on Sunday. It's a loss I guess, but not a gratifying one considering the "pain" I've been through this week (what a drama queen I am :rolleyes::p). I suppose my first week isn't technically over until Sunday, so my first official weigh in should really be Monday (after Sunday's DD), but I don't see anything too dramatic happening tbh. I've been 100% on plan staying under 500 cals on DD's and over 2000 on UD's, a daily swing of at least 1500 cals, so I'm giving the regime every chance to work, but at the moment it doesn't look like I'm going to lose any more than I would probably have done by simply cutting my cals to 1300 per day from 1600. Maybe I was at the back of the queue when the "skinny gene" was being handed out, lol.

Anyway...time to EAT (and yes, that deserves capital letters!)

Have a good one, folks!
 
Morning Scrum... Great analysis and I'd feel the same ... If you put yourself through so much pain you kinda want to see more losses for the effort!!!

Enjoy the EATING day ! Lol xxx
 
Afternoon Scrumbles

you're not a drama queen at all, of course you want to see some reward for the DDs - and you have been brilliantly focused this week, so maybe it will take your bod a little while to adjust?

I found the key for me on DDs was to make really thick soups, they filled me up much more.

Have a lovely UD - what's on the menu?

Sxxx
 
I think susies soups are a great idea - and you're right, it's just the first week. Give it one more where you only have your own food to worry about and then see how you feel.
 
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Thanks for the encouragement guys....this would be soooooooo much harder without you lovely lot!xx

I went down the soup route yesterday - 5 bowls of it! - but still spent most of the time with images of dancing Twix bars in my mind, and I don't even like them, lol.

And instead of my DD's being ameliorated by the thought of an approaching UD, I find the reverse: my UD's get sort of ruined because I know I'm starving the next day, so I feel pressure to eat as much as I can, even if I don't want it, in the hopes I won't feel as bad on my DD.:rolleyes: My mind ain't co-operating at the moment, for whatever reason.

One thing I've decided is that I'm not trying to exercise on a DD again until I feel better about them. I had no choice if I was going to meet my June target (set before I started JUDDDing), but I will arrange things differently for July - walks/lifting on UD's only. That will give me one less thing to fret about!

Nothing too exciting on the menu today - basically trying to catch up on my oily fish quota which has dipped sharply since starting JUDDD as it's too highly-caloried to work well with a DD. So, smoked peppered mackerel with jacket potato and a salad for dinner and tuna cooked in coconut oil and spices with a generous helping of cabbage (yum!:D) for lunch. There's also a nice big bowl of strawberries in the fridge with my name on it, so I'm looking forward to that :D.

As long as I don't think about tomorrow, I'll be a happy Scrumbles...;)
 
ladyfelsham said:
Ooh don't forget the shirataki noodles too - 5cals per 100g. I'm going to put an order in this week :)

Later - here's a good one from a JUDDD person - Down Days recipes ONLY - Page 27 - Low Carb Friends

Also just found this useful website, some great soup ideas here, and nothing involves much cooking - I'd leave out the tatties and oil, and then you're good to go :)
Quick and easy Soup recipes for students
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Never had shirataki noodles - I'll look into those. And thanks for the links...you're a star! :D

*goes off to read*
 
I had to chuckle at your last post Scrum... I am SO like you... If I knew there was a famine coming up my brain would give me even more excuses to stuff my face for England !! That's why I'm not entirely sure about JUDDD...

I would feel cross and resentful and weak (my body goes weak even at the idea of less food) on DDs and I wouldn't be able to move cos too stuffed on UP days!!

I'm far too deranged about food right now to risk it... I have no off button... No control... No feeling of satisfied unless I feel sick from eating too much!

That's why I think if I did it I would have to stick with a low carb menu ... Then there would be no additional temptation in the house.

Well done though ... Hopefully I'll get more balanced over time and then might be able to try it xxx
 
Afternoon Scrumbles, Oh I get it with your UP and anticipating the following DD. I'm the opposite. Feel like I can stick it out (provided I keep busy) and plan my following UP day.

I'm usually like you though especially with my dreaded every other Saturday shift. To me the best part is the minute I finish my sat shift so much so that I rarely enjoy my Saturday off in anticipation of my next one in.

We need to get you some food ideas to make your DD easier and somewhat enjoyable and I need a new job lol.

The mind is a funny ole thing. :) x
 
Scrumbles said:
spent most of the time with images of dancing Twix bars in my mind, and I don't even like them, lol.
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LOL that really made me smile :)

Scrumbles said:
my UD's get sort of ruined because I know I'm starving the next day, so I feel pressure to eat as much as I can, even if I don't want it, in the hopes I won't feel as bad on my DD
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We have to make sure we find you some yummy, filling, tasty food, honey - so you will look forward to DDs - and then enjoy UDs all the more :D

I'll experiment with soups and post them on my thread - I've also just posted more low cal options, so have a look xxx

Alpaca said:
I would feel cross and resentful and weak (my body goes weak even at the idea of less food) on DDs and I wouldn't be able to move cos too stuffed on UP days!!...I have no off button... No control... No feeling of satisfied unless I feel sick from eating too much!
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I think you're way too hard on yourself, Didi - I've seen you eat, and seen pictures of your portion sizes - and they ain't huge, love! Not that I am trying to persuade you away from LC - it is working for you (SEVEN stone!!!!), just wanted to reassure you :) xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Alpaca said:
I'm far too deranged about food right now to risk it... I have no off button... No control... No feeling of satisfied unless I feel sick from eating too much!
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To be honest this is how I personally feel too, just too deranged about food. I think I could manage 500 cal days, I've done VLCD before (although with how vitamin/mineral deficient I am these days I can never do one again) but I dint think I could restrain myself on the high cal days. Reading about the diet all I can think of is the rubbish I could eat (though the official calculator doesn't give me very high up days anyway).

I know from my last calorie counting experience, tried for a few weeks right before coming back to Atkins, that I can't be trusted to make healthy food choices. I was eating 1300 cals a day and spending most of it on crisps and chocs.

It makes me really admire the ladies on here who are doing it healthily (oily fish!!!) but I don't trust myself. I do think that I might chuck a couple of 500 cal days in when I'm off plan for breaks and eating rubbish anyway but in general I suspect I'd be a disaster area.

Sorry for the giant ramble in your diary scrumbles!
 
Alpaca said:
I had to chuckle at your last post Scrum... I am SO like you... If I knew there was a famine coming up my brain would give me even more excuses to stuff my face for England !! That's why I'm not entirely sure about JUDDD...

I would feel cross and resentful and weak (my body goes weak even at the idea of less food) on DDs and I wouldn't be able to move cos too stuffed on UP days!!

I'm far too deranged about food right now to risk it... I have no off button... No control... No feeling of satisfied unless I feel sick from eating too much!

That's why I think if I did it I would have to stick with a low carb menu ... Then there would be no additional temptation in the house.

Well done though ... Hopefully I'll get more balanced over time and then might be able to try it xxx
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"cross and resentful" rings a lot of bells, gotta say!

I'm reminded of that DM article I linked to a while back about how the body starts to fight back after you've been on a diet for months, all those hormones springing into action to make you hungrier so that you'll eat more and put the weight (which your body never wanted to lose in the first place) back on. I've been finding I've been getting hungrier as the months pass, even though I'm in ketosis, so now that I'm almost certainly out of it, goodness knows what my appetite will be like :eek:. I seriously think that that could be one of the things hindering me right now.

coffeelover said:
Afternoon Scrumbles, Oh I get it with your UP and anticipating the following DD. I'm the opposite. Feel like I can stick it out (provided I keep busy) and plan my following UP day.

I'm usually like you though especially with my dreaded every other Saturday shift. To me the best part is the minute I finish my sat shift so much so that I rarely enjoy my Saturday off in anticipation of my next one in.

We need to get you some food ideas to make your DD easier and somewhat enjoyable and I need a new job lol.

The mind is a funny ole thing. :) x
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Yes, that's exactly it - whenever I've been in a job I've hated, Sunday was always tainted with the thought of Monday.:(

DD's might get easier on their own - who knows? - but in the mean time I shall have to make a bit more effort finding options that are more sustaining. :)

ladyfelsham said:
LOL that really made me smile :)



We have to make sure we find you some yummy, filling, tasty food, honey - so you will look forward to DDs - and then enjoy UDs all the more :D

I'll experiment with soups and post them on my thread - I've also just posted more low cal options, so have a look xxx



I think you're way too hard on yourself, Didi - I've seen you eat, and seen pictures of your portion sizes - and they ain't huge, love! Not that I am trying to persuade you away from LC - it is working for you (SEVEN stone!!!!), just wanted to reassure you :) xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Experiment away, hon! I eat most things, but I have zero imagination in the kitchen, so any ideas you come up with will be gratefully received!:D

I found a recipe for curried watercress and lentil soup in an old healthy-eating cookbook yesterday, so I may go for that today - minus the lentils 'cos I haven't got any, lol.

By the way, do you know how much protein you're getting on a DD? I have to say, this is one of the things that concerns me a little because on such a restricted calorie total the best I've managed is about 40g, and as I'm used to having over 100g of protein every single day on Atkins, I'm wondering how the drop will affect me. I try to get plenty on an UP day, but I'm nowhere near compensating for the DD. Hmmm.

moonlights said:
To be honest this is how I personally feel too, just too deranged about food. I think I could manage 500 cal days, I've done VLCD before (although with how vitamin/mineral deficient I am these days I can never do one again) but I dint think I could restrain myself on the high cal days. Reading about the diet all I can think of is the rubbish I could eat (though the official calculator doesn't give me very high up days anyway).

I know from my last calorie counting experience, tried for a few weeks right before coming back to Atkins, that I can't be trusted to make healthy food choices. I was eating 1300 cals a day and spending most of it on crisps and chocs.

It makes me really admire the ladies on here who are doing it healthily (oily fish!!!) but I don't trust myself. I do think that I might chuck a couple of 500 cal days in when I'm off plan for breaks and eating rubbish anyway but in general I suspect I'd be a disaster area.

Sorry for the giant ramble in your diary scrumbles!
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Ramble all you like m'dear - you've expressed my major concern with this regime, and the bit in bold is absolutely true of what's happening to me.

Almost the minute I started I was thinking about what kind of sugar/carb-laden rubbish I could eat on UD's, and it's been getting worse. I'm beginning to feel that my "suffering" on DD's deserves a reward on UD's, and that's a very dangerous mindset to be in.

I'm keeping a lid on it at the moment by sticking rigidly to the foods I've been having on Atkins (plus a few squares of G&B's 85% dark chocolate that have crept in), but the thought keeps occurring to me that it's only a matter of time...:/
 
Well, I ate myself to a standstill yesterday, but, bizarrely, I have gained no weight this morning. I am still 186.6lbs - did not expect that :confused:

I have quite a nasty headache this morning - TOTM approacheth, I believe :( - so that's helping me not to feel hungry....erm, yay(!)

On the menu today:

coffee with cream (I have to have that, no matter what!), vat of watercress soup, couple of ounces of cooked chicken and a big plate of steamed kale with an ounce of grated cheddar on it.

We'll see how I get on with that.

Have a good Sunday, folks! :)
 
Scrumbles said:
...do you know how much protein you're getting on a DD? I have to say, this is one of the things that concerns me a little because on such a restricted calorie total the best I've managed is about 40g, and as I'm used to having over 100g of protein every single day on Atkins, I'm wondering how the drop will affect me. I try to get plenty on an UP day, but I'm nowhere near compensating for the DD. Hmmm.
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My protein %age is lower than a LC woe - but still higher than my usual rubbish. I try to eat protein in two meals each UD, but for me that's offset by the amount of veg - with all their lovely vit content :)

Sorry to hear about the headache, I had one on two of my DDs last week - but Val said that's quite common. I have a headache today too, but it's self inflicted :eek:
 
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Morning Scrummie... love watercress soup too so must get cracking on making some! 186.6 is fantastic - I'm 202.5 so am catching up with you!! ha ha xxx
 
ladyfelsham said:
My protein %age is lower than a LC woe - but still higher than my usual rubbish. I try to eat protein in two meals each UD, but for me that's offset by the amount of veg - with all their lovely vit content :)

Sorry to hear about the heaache, I had one on two of my DDs last week - but Val said that's quite common. I have a headache today too, but it's self inflicted :eek:
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We were definitely coming from very different places before we started this. I hadn't eaten or drunk any rubbish for a month and considered my nutrition was pretty much spot on. Now I don't know whether I'm getting what I need or not, but it feels like "not" to be honest.

Hope the hangover's better by the way!xx

Alpaca said:
Morning Scrummie... love watercress soup too so must get cracking on making some! 186.6 is fantastic - I'm 202.5 so am catching up with you!! ha ha xxx
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Afternoon, Di...the watercress soup wasn't up to much, I'm afraid. Or I wasn't in the mood for it...dunno really.

You are soooooo gonna catch me up - you're going like a train now! :D I was hoping your holiday might give you a nudge, and it looks like it has - so pleased for you...you deserve it! xx


Weighed in "officially" this morning and I'm 186.4lbs after my first full week. So that's 1.6lbs down, and frankly, considering how bad I've felt for most of the time, I don't feel it's been worth it.

But what the heck, I'm still interested to know whether a miracle will happen and my body and mind will suddenly adapt to this regime, so I'll carry on. Today is an UP day, so I'm hardly going to stop now anyway!

*goes off to eat like there's no tomorrow* :rolleyes::cool::D
 
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