Alli takes the scenic route to maintenance

She is lovely, so sensible to get a *****, [It won't let me write female dog!! Who set this censor thing :8855:?!!!] they are much easier to train. Labs are lovely, I've got a black one now, but we've always had gun dogs - the last one was a wonderful Golden Retreiver....sigh. It's great for children to grow up with dogs too, we've always had them, always will. :)
Glad you are feeling more yourself.....the dog will help you know....just try sneaking something nice to eat, she'll hear the rustle of sweetie paper or the biscuit tin lid at 50 feet and be sitting at your feet looking so appealing doing the 'I'm a starving labrador, they never feed me' look!! Did you know that a Lab's brain is firmly centred in their tummies?!! ( Bit like mine really!! ) xxx
 
Not a great day for eating as it was DH's birthday yesterday so had family round today. Lots of food and cake - despite planning on not having any cake. I even had extra cream [sigh]!!

Still, we had quite a bit of time playing in the park with the pup this morning. We still can't decide what to call her as not keen on Viki - maybe Molly or Sandy...

It's snowing here again, the fire is on and we're all chilling out.

Some more pics - Please indulge me, I'll get bored of it soon enough ;)
 

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That dog isn't on the bed or the sofa is it?! :eek: She looks far too comfy to me! :D

If the dog knows her name sometimes it's easier to call her something that sounds similar....but I'm having trouble thinking of anything that ryhmes with Viki......:rolleyes:

Molly is lovely, Sandy too, very traditional name for a Lab.....what do the children think? xx
 
That dog isn't on the bed or the sofa is it?! :eek: She looks far too comfy to me! :D

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It's the sofa! The first thing she did when she arrived was get up on the sofa. She nips when we try to get her down (she completely ignores our commands to get off) and we can't quite agree on whether to let her stay or not. DH loves her on the sofa whereas I think she should be on her own bed on the floor. She nips every time I try to get her off though (as telling her does nothing at the moment!). For now she is allowed on the sofa as long as it is on her blanket. Is that bad:confused::confused::confused::eek:?

I think she knows she's the boss right now so we will have to sort that one out super quick - if only I knew how :confused::). Books are on order from Amazon and she's booked on a training course starting mid-Feb, but until then we're muddling along as best we can :D
 
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It's the sofa! The first thing she did when she arrived was get up on the sofa. She nips when we try to get her down (she completely ignores our commands to get off) and we can't quite agree on whether to let her stay or not. DH loves her on the sofa whereas I think she should be on her own bed on the floor. She nips every time I try to get her off though (as telling her does nothing at the moment!). For now she is allowed on the sofa as long as it is on her blanket. Is that bad:confused::confused::confused::eek:?

I think she knows she's the boss right now so we will have to sort that one out super quick - if only I knew how :confused::). Books are on order from Amazon and she's booked on a training course starting mid-Feb, but until then we're muddling along as best we can :D

Seriously Alli, yes that is very bad. That dog needs to be bottom of the heap in your family and to know this, right now. You don't want a heartbreaking situation with the children, so sort it out now, this minute.
I think she should always be on the floor, never upstairs and her bed should be somewhere she can't sneak up onto the furniture when you aren't there. The kitchen if there's nowhere else.
I never, ever hit our dogs but if I have to make a point and this is only when they know they have been disobedient - which is never after they have got through puppyhood, I will give them a good shake and shout.....very loud and a lot. And yes, you can grab a Lab by the scruff of her neck, lift her off the floor a little and shake and yell. Don't let the children do this though.
As with children, no nagging, the fewer rules the better, but those that are there are utterly non negotiable.
If I was you I would explain this to OH now tonight, decide what the rules are and stick to them. Ours are - dogs downstairs, never on the furniture, no toys left with the dog (they are yours, and you allow her to play with them, with you and then take them away afterwards. The reason for this is that they will guard their toys and place they want to sleep.)
Always feed her alone, (outside is good) away from anyone, so you put it down and go away and never do the stupid thing that people try, which is to take her food away from her. (Oh and make her sit and wait for it until you say she can have her meal.) And her bed should be a place where no one touches her or bothers her, this is a rule for the children. Ours had to ignore the dogs if they had gone to bed. No titbits either, there's nothing worse than a slobbering Labrador watching every bit you put on your mouth. Incidentally, you should eat you own meals just before you give the dog hers. (It's reinforcing you as leader of the pack.)

Alli, I'm sorry to be so direct and I don't want to worry you, but this really must be sorted out straight away. If you do this you will end up with a loving family pet who will be a happy dog and always want to be with you. We have no fences at home round the garden, our dogs could go anywhere but they are always much more anxious not to lose us than we are them. I'm looking round now just to prove this and..........and my dog is lying in the kitchen doorway watching me type this. You will almost always be able to trust her (sorry it's usually true,) but we've only had one dog who I would have put money on would never ever bite under any circumstances. And protect her a bit from the children with some peace and quiet especially while she's such a novelty. So ignore those cute melting eyes and make a happy dog who knows her place at the bottom. Odd but it's absolutely true. Trust me. xxxx

PS Those little cat biscuits are ideal for training, as a reward - just one at a time though, you don't want a dog who needs CD! The children can teach her to sit, stay, lie down, roll over etc. using these treats, it'll help her to know her place.
Right I'll stop being so bossy and go now! Good luck, she'll be great and in a little while you'll wonder how you ever felt compete without her. xxx
 
OMG Bess I love you!!!:sign0168:

We knew allowing Molly (yes, Molly :)) on the sofa was wrong but as I mentioned before DH couldn't get past his dream of having a lab by his side. Well I read him your post (and I should add that it was so harsh I nearly started crying when I first read it :cry:;)). He wanted to wait until tomorrow, but I said I would do it right away and he agreed. I've no idea whether I've done the right thing but I asked DH to take her out to the kitchen to practise some tricks (well the one trick - down) while I covered the empty seats on the sofa with boxes and other uncomfortable things. I then took her rug and put it on the floor and called them in. We sat down and she circled the room for a few minutes, barked a bit and then settled down on her new bed. At the moment every few minutes she circles the room again and barks and we have a go at her (or ignore her - not sure which works best).

Now she has settled on the floor next to DH - she is so upset. DH is really nervous when she barks which doesn't help. He's only had small dogs before and she has a powerful bark on her :).

We already do the eating before her and making her wait for her food. At the moment I feed her in her crate so that she is away from the children. We also don't feed her any of our food, so hopefully we're not messing up completely :D

Can't wait for my training book to come so that i can do some reading - hoping the book is good - have you heard of Gwen Bailey?

Peace appears to have been restored - although DH is in need of a stiff drink.

See, I'm very well trained - I did as I was told within minutes :D:D:D:D
 
Dear Alli, I left the computer on in case you wanted to reply. I know what I wrote sounds harsh on the dog, and probably frightened you and I'm sorry if that's the case.
You have done absolutely the right thing though, well done. Don't know why she's barking, but it's all so new to her, two new homes and she's bound to be very unsettled, which is part of the reason you need to be quiet, kind, clear, calm and firm and get a routine going. Don't forget you are dealing with a teenage dog here too and if you do have to shout at her, make sure you believe that she knows exactly why, so it's got to be instant. Snapping for instance, in fact, that's about all I can think of that would merit such an extreme response, but it's something you mustn't allow, there's only one place for a dog that bites.

The thing she'll hate the most is being sent away from you, as a punishment, which you can do later when she's settled if you must, that's quite effective too for begging for instance.
Don't worry, she'll settle soon, in a couple of weeks helped particularly if she has clear boundaries.
Her blanket on the floor in the sitting room when she's with you is a very good idea, make sure she knows what it's called (anything) and send her to it when you invite her in to be with you.
She's got such a lot to learn now, including a nice new name, she's bound to be upset and confused. Just be firm and calm and she'll settle even quicker. Labs have a lovely deep bark, tell OH what a good house dog she is, you can teach her tricks with that too. Just for now though, she needs to learn 'sit,' 'stay,' wait,' 'down,' 'heel' or 'close' and 'no'.
Fun tricks come later and she will love them. Our dog will give one bark when we ask her to. It was very useful when we 'lost' her but knew she wouldn't be far away. We called her and shouted 'say woof' and this muffled single 'woof' came from one of the buildings! She'd been mousing in there, we hadn't seen her and shut her in!!

It's difficult trying to explain things like this and how things are here with our dog. We handle all our animals quietly, gently and firmly and so can you. I know I mentioned the shouting and shaking, but I've only done it once with this dog and that was when she snapped at a friend of one of my daughter's. She's not done it again, but we keep her away from children. I don't know how she'll be when/if we have grandchildren, we'll handle that then if she's still around but much as I love her, if I can't trust her then she'll go. But we didn't have this dog when we had small children, all the others that we did were fine and Molly will be too.
I haven't read any books on dog training, just had a few dogs but I want them to be pleasant to be with, so they have to behave themselves and then they make the most loving companions. It's just the same with the children really, lots of love and very few firm boundaries.

You'll be fine, you've got a lovely adventure and a new friend to discover, enjoy it!! xxx
 
Alli

Hope Molly is settling in well now and the new boundaries are helping all the family. All that Bess has said is what my mum would have said too. Thankfully all of hers are great with children, though obviously it takes time with puppies to adapt them to children (and Alex in particular)

How had your food been today?
Glad your OH had a nice birthday too. Ok so too much cake, but these things happen in 'normal' life right?
Back to proper eating again and cake won't be there tomorrow x
 
Hey Alli, how lovely...a new dog! I know absolutely nothing about dogs except I wouldn't have one...ha ha! I prefer a cat, much less bother but very boring!
Hope the eating is going well.
Enjoy your lovely new family member!

xx
 
Hope it's all going well Alli, Molly sounds so lovely. My dog is a neurotic mess, she had been taken back to the dogs home twice by dismayed owners and is not perfect, but you can see she means well! Over enthusiasm is her biggest crime (apart from cheese theft, on occasion!). Thinking about it, she is not so different from me! Wish I had had 'dog-whisperer' Bess to advise early on though.

xxx
 
Hi all,

Molly is fine despite probably getting seriously mixed messages from her new owners! We're doing our best and are taking her to her first training session tomorrow but it is hard to know how far to push her at times. She gets a bit too boisterous when playing and so we can only play for a couple of minutes at a time before it becomes too much. Hopefully she'll soon learn that jumping up or nipping equals end of play session.

Food wise it's neither good nor bad. I'm probably eating maintenance calories or thereabouts but I'm not counting at the moment. Will pick this up again next week once things have settled a bit here.

Hope you are all well - will try and catch up on your diaries later tonight!
 
Glad Molly's doing ok Alli, sounds like you are doing fine to me. The boisterousness is just because she's a puppy and playful, she'll settle down. :)
 
Hi All,

I'm working from home today as there are no trains into London. I spent 2 hours waiting at the station before giving up, so am only just starting to thaw out!

I need to start getting a grip on my eating again as I'm not paying any attention at the moment. I'm not really overeating but if I want to shed the xmas weight I have to pay attention a bit more.

At least I'm getting plenty of exercise with Molly requiring regular walks and play.
 
Hey Ali,
Glad to here Molly is doing well..
Im working in London today and its not great all the pavements are slippery and full of slush so your much better off being at home hon.
I think over the xmas period we were all picking more than usual and its hard to get back into that "not picking" mode.. Im struggling with that too a little.
You can do it hon.
Have a good day x
 
...Garlic bread...mmm a weakness of mine too, but you are better than some G.B.

Back to it hun - xx
 
Garlic bread?!.......:drool:
 
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