'Chasing Butterflies' - Team 7

Heeey ladies ive been hiding since my wi last satday lost 6.5 lbs well it's gone to me head this week and totally of plan big time.!!

GUTTED!! need to put a plan together big time now.x
 
Shanny24 -- If oyu are only four pounds from your goal weight, it is not a big issue. Just take is slow and it'll go and (hopefully) stay gone.

MM
 
Hi all,
Hope everyone is well? Sorry been awol, v.busy at work, then when get home i tend to use the precious time inbetween sleeps and work playing with DD, who is now poorly again with a sore throat and temp.... poor little mite. Don't you just feel so useless when kids are ill.:(.
Been a bit on/off. Generally sticking to plan all day, i have returned to 810. Having problems when i get home from work, feeling very tired and reach for food i shouldn't have, in portions that i shouldn't. We are not talking major binges, but its annoying nonetheless. Must try to get it under control. Think will just take it on an hr by hr basis. 1st goal to get to end of night without munching anything else except CD soup/shake, coffee/water. Think its just a case of my usual post WI binge. You'd think after 6 mths i'd have learnt how to stop this by now.
Did some interesting reading recently about food addiction/emotional eating posted some yrs back on here. Thought provoking stuff and ringing true... if only there was a simple way to actually transfer that knowledge in to sustained action to stop the behaviour! I will 'get' this eventually if it kills me...
Does anyone else tend to spend time a lot of looking at all the reasons behing the eating/weight problem?
There are newbies posting for team places so going to reply to invite to join us if thats ok. Sorry for disagreeing MM but I really don't see the point on starting new thread/team. And on a personal level, (not sure if Nicki would agree also), i have been with this thread since the beginning, and would not like to see it go, at least until myself and Nicki have completely got to the end of the losing journey. As previous team leader i have worked hard to try to keep active members up, even when at times it seemed impossible. The problem of people dropping out/ recruitment will still exist. We no longer have the weekly challenge at the moment anyway, since Irene dropped it pre xmas due to lack of interest. And there appears to be little move towards that restarting at the moment. Its a huge responsibility and takes a lot of time and effort, and i'm not sure anyone else wants to take that on. Figure we may as well continue as we are, with the focus continuing on the support element of the team. Re-evaluate as and when the challenge restarts. Not sure that there is much need for too many rules if the challenge doesn't exist anymore. Can revamp and re-establish them when this changes. The main purpose of the teams as i see it, aside from the original challenge is to have a smaller group of people, all trying to lose weight via CD who can come together and have a forum in which to discuss their isuues with their weight loss journey. A lot of people do feel intimidated by the 'open' section of the forum so it feels for some like a safer place to explore some of the more personal aspects of our issues, and seek advice/support from others who will be likely to feel the same, or at least be able to understand where we are coming from, no matter what stage of the plan we are on. Obviously the fact that we get to know each other better, and can have social 'chat' is important to, but i do see that element as secondary to the weight loss support. After all, that is why most of us chose to come here in the first place, as opposed to joining a non weight loss networking site. Oh heck, sorry if that sounds terrible... it goes without saying how important minis and particular the team has been to me.
Anyway, waffle over. Don't want to upset anyone... thats just how i feel.
Going to go and slurp my soup and will hit sack soon i think. Suspect poor DD will have a restless night... xx
 
Oh, sorry, also wanted to send big hugs to Shanny! As you know i have had monumental struggles staying on plan the closer i have got to goal, and part of the reason i am doing so much reading around to try to understand/ stop it. So i have no answers or pearls of wisdom, but every bit of empathy with you. Try to think about why its happened? Can you identify what has contributed? I know that as i have got smaller, my need to 'reward' with food post WI has almost got worse. I wonder if its just because i am not so disgusted by the reflection in the mirror anymore, i don't have the same sense of moving to goal, 'cause i'm nearly there? Dunno, just thinking out loud. Hope you are getting on ok now hun.
Hope you are managing to curb the damage in the mess hall Pol!
Hows the ss going MM? Did you have WI yet, any joy with the anticipated 3lb?
Nicki, i get where you are coming from with the 'safety' of ss. What i am realising is that in reality it is no different to any other weight loss plan fundamentally. They can all work, if you follow them. The only way this is going to be different from previous diets, is that if we use the time away from food to its maximium benefit and really try to change the thoughts and behaviours associated with food that got us fat in the first place. This is why i love CD, because i have just never asked the questions before, let alone tried to answer them. Largely have minimins to also thank for that. Can point you to some good threads if you want. Try not to panic too much hun, but do start to think about it. In my limited experience, it only seems to get harder when you near the end of 'losing'. Hugs all xx
 
oops sorry, double posted...duh!
 
Oh, sorry, also wanted to send big hugs to Shanny! As you know i have had monumental struggles staying on plan the closer i have got to goal, and part of the reason i am doing so much reading around to try to understand/ stop it. So i have no answers or pearls of wisdom, but every bit of empathy with you. Try to think about why its happened? Can you identify what has contributed? I know that as i have got smaller, my need to 'reward' with food post WI has almost got worse. I wonder if its just because i am not so disgusted by the reflection in the mirror anymore, i don't have the same sense of moving to goal, 'cause i'm nearly there? Dunno, just thinking out loud. Hope you are getting on ok now hun.


Happy New Year Butterfly loving to hear from you again well i had wi last satday 6.5 lbs off when i left my CDC the toffee bars where out of date. So i contacted her she said sorry i wasnt able to swap them as i brought the last load so had to wait till the tuesday to get my CD.! So turned to food while i waited for the bars to arrive so thats how i started, can i sooo can relate to YOU when you say "your not so disgusted by your reflection in the mirror anymore." i get dressed in the mirror everyday and smile away.! I look at the size tags to double check the two clothes sizes i have gone down. and then tell myself i dont need to diet anymore which people are telling me recently.! but for me it's all about reaching my final goal. FOR MEEE!:D im back on cd again day 2 i have 6 lbs to go but have told myself that im not going to get upset, stress anymore as im happy with the way i look now .It's costing me so much money every week as i go shopping twice a week to buy outfits, cant stop shopping clothes fit me now. but im happy!! life is to short so enjoy and thank god for every moment !! well done butterfly you have achieved alot, and thank you for such an open wise thread.
im off to do my hannah waterman dvd its all about toning the body now. lol:jelous:
Have a lovely CD sunday everyone.
 
Morning all!
Shanny, how impressed am i with you jumping around to Hannah Waterman! Know what you mean about the clothes shopping, as hard as i try i cannot seem to avoid the sales. Normally i would never bother because there never seemed to be any decent stuff in the big sizes, but now i can buy almost anything i want, it feels amazing!
I've started the morning with a good tidying session, and I'm off to visit family today. DD seems a bit better but did get me up at a stupid hr, so feeling tired.... Made it through rest of evening without nibbling, so continuing the hr by hr approach and it feels good today. Have even managed to down a few glasses of water, which i had let slip.
Hope you all have a lovely Sunday xx
 
Hiya again dvd done off out shopping lol still on track so far plan to have my toffee bar while out as my lunch.!

Hope everyone is well x
 
Hi Butterfly & Shanny --

I am fine things as they are -- the new thread thing was so that if anyone was interested in us and our postings they would not "need" to read through so many postings from so long ago. And, of course, so many of the original members have moved on -- but that doe not make what they posted any less helpful or valuable. And, as a historian by training -- I appreciate the value in continuity.

Shanny -- Unless the bars were years out of date, I am sure they would have been okay. It's usually a recommended guideline for "freshness" with dry goods. I'm glad you're back at it -- and I agree with Butterfly: the closer I got to goal the easier it was to think, "Oh this won't hurt." etc. The great thing about Lighter Life (if you have a good counsellor and group) is that you learn about "rationalising" etc. and how we need to be "adult" in our decision. I should really get out the materials and work through them again as I use the CD to take off the weight I allowed myself to regain.

MM
 
Hi all,
Agree MM on the importance of reframing thought processes relating to our choice with food. I really do feel it is vital and an area where CD 'fails' to a certain degree, as there is no 'formal' means to adress it. Even a read through - self help pack could be of some benefit. Also the variants in the 'quality' of CDC's makes a difference. It seems some offer more support of this type than others. Mine is wonderful, but reasonably new, and i am her first person to try to work up the plans for maintenance. I can talk to her about these issues, but i almost feel sometimes as if i actually know more than her about it, or at least ask more questions about it. (even if putting it into practice is another matter!) I s'pose it partly depends on their experience of their journey and their reasons for getting overweight in the first place, and how similar it is to our own. If they don't relate to 'food addiction' or 'binge eating' on a personal level it must be dificult to grasp. Non CD'ers i know who have never had weight issues just cannot 'get' why problems with food occur at all, look at me like i'm nuts if i try to explain...(so i tend not to, unless its someone i trust and know quite well)
Enough waffle, i am trying to be good, did have a small meal at my nans. I felt bad turning it down when she had made the effort. Presently feel the need to eat, but so far successfully overriding this, making the choice not to, and necking water instead. Feels good!
Hope you are all ok?
Speak soon xx
 
Hi girls,
Hope all ok, not much going on here, just saying hello. Struggling a bit still, but not so i'm gaining, prob sts at the mo which i can live with. Plod on...will get there eventually. xx
 
Hi Butterfly,

It looks as if you are hanging in there -- and I know what you mean about feeling guilty when someone has made and effort for you. But, fortuately most Nans are pretty understanding. And, you've done so well -- and I am sure she sees how much fitter and healthier you are for it. My OH had decided to join me on the CD (he'll be doing SS+ or 810). I have not been SSing this week and little nervous about tomorrow's weigh in. But, I havea contigency plan -- if I have lost and am okay with the loss -- then I'll continue as I have been. Stayed the same or (horrors) gained -- then I'll go back to SSing and stick with until below goal.

MM
 
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Evening Ladies!

Another busy w/e and another round of meals out! Wish this craziness would stop! Having said that, I still managed to lose another 2lbs last week, although have probably put it back on today - not very healthy work lunch. Oh well, the snow has finally gone and so will be able to get to my CDC this week, so need to her to have a stern word with me!

Well done Butterfly for getting 'back on the horse'.

Well done Shanny for the 6lbs!

Mel - fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Pol
 
Cheers MM. Fingers crossed for tomorrow then! We're the same height, so surely you cannot ss until 9.5st? My cdc figures my BMI at 24.9 when i hit 10st7lb (at 5'4.5") I know its a guideline, and a few pounds further won't make that much difference, but to go down another stone may not be such a good idea? Be safe hun. After going back to food, there is a certain appeal of the safety net of ss to continue losing isn't there? But i s'pose therein lies the problem!! Sure you'll get there, whatever route you take.
My Nan is lovely, and so pleased for me, but she was going into hospital today for surgery to biopsy a lump on her neck. Shes home now and well. But she seemed a bit down about it and i just wanted to make her feel good! I don't get to eat her food very often and it took me back to my childhood...yum!
Don't be to hard on yourself Pol. It is difficult when social events get in the way. You can still make 'good' choices, and just get back on the horse inbetween. Don't follow my example and use it as an excuse to continue eating anything i fancy.
Have not 810'd today. Only had one bar, cause i wanted a nice meal. All healthy, but higher cals (about 480) and treated self to a bit of fruit. So prob managed about 1000-1200 today.
Speak soon xx
 
Hi Ladies,

It sounds like you did well Butterfly with your choices. I hope all is well with your Nan.

Walpol to have meals out and still lose is Fab. I hope that work things might slack off now that the holidays have passed -- and there won't be so many obligatory meals out.

I need to get going to the gym -- my first time back this year! And the year is alreay 1/24 over... is that right? My math skills leave a lot to be desired. LOL

Have a great day ladies -- and thanks for the good wishes on the weigh in. Fingers crossed.

MM
 
Hi girls,
Hope you are all well and WI was ok for you MM?
Had a good day really, at work 12-8 so that help cos i just don't gettime to even think about food. Had a bar, then when home had an 810 meal, had more greens than should, prob a double portion, and did put half a pepper in the quorn mix i did, but it was split between two of us, so not too bad. Treat of two apples, a clemantine and a small handful of nuts and sultanas. So its sort of a varient on the 810, cause i'm not having the 3 packs, but helping self to more food options. Prob still came in under 1000 i should think. I know its not strictly on plan, but i'd rather be a bit flexible with healthy stuff than not, and lead to a stupid binge because i feel deprived! Off to bed now, stay up any longer and i'll be fighting the 'munchies' demons.
You ok Nicki? Hope you managed to get back to plan ok. If not, here for you hun if you need us! xx
 
Hi Butterfly --

Thanks for asking. Only 1 pound off... but a loss is a loss and I endevour to do better this week. My DH has joined me on the diet. He'll be more like you: more in control of his food choices. He is very good with this -- he can lose weight on any diet as he can make "as they say in LL" adult choices. I am a "all or nothing" person, rather self-indulgent, and have no concept of what portion control is -- so, I really hsould be SSing to make goal, but I want to "learn" how to handle food. And, starting with one low cal meal day makes sense. Obviously, I did not control the calories well enough last week -- to earn the 2 to 3 pound loss I wanted.

You have done well -- and it is time for you to be "making your own food choices" because this is were we all need to start learning how to live our lives, so that we maintain a healthy weight and stay physically fit. How is your DH doing on the plan? He is dieting with you?

MM
 
Well done MM!:talk017: A loss is a loss, and the amount doesn't diminish your efforts and the head work you are putting in! Learning as we go, and all that!
OH has done so well. I have to confess i probably nagged him into it... He has been overweight for years also. Portion control a big issue, as well as habit eating, (ie. puds infront of t.v) I got all excited about CD and wanted to help anyone around me. He wanted to, but just needed a push in the right direction. One week, when i was moving up to 1000-1200 i offerred to do his diet plan for one whole week. He agreed and hasn't looked back since. Lost then regained over xmas. Has lost 9lb in 9 days. Doing tesco ultraslim x 2 as a supplement, with some fruit and a meal, the odd low GI snack. Totalling average of 1000cals per day. He is over the moon, loving it, feeling really good about himself, shrinking out of clothes. I'm so proud of him and he is thrilled he has taken action at last. Started buying food books, comes abck from shops with all sort of grains/seeds to try. Got to dash, cleaning ans cupboard sorting awaits..... to make room for all the 'good' foods! xx
 
Hi Butterfly,

My DH is pretty pleased so far. He is starting at 185 and thinks he should weigh about 150 (he is only 5'6"). However, he has a broad build -- and I think if he gets to 160 he'll be pretty good. I think I will add a ticker for him to my profile. He'd never go on a forum like this -- but it'll be fun to track his progress.

I've completely cleaned and sorted the cupboards, fridge and freezer -- and even sorted the spice and oils. So, now I want to call a British CD Consultant and see if I can get some products from here. More variety that way.

I hope you have a good evening.

MM
 
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