Thanks hun. The blockage fairy is giving me backache, I might be a bit pmsy too.. Half a lb slipped off so I got my half stone award. The competitive no syn man came up after asking how much it was in total. I didn't tell him and pointed out I restarted to have a clear slate. If anyone else had asked I'd have said but hesbso aggressively competitive it is unpleasant. He didn't like that I wasn't sure how much I wanted to lose. I said maybe 2 or 3 stone, it was going to be 4.5 stone from my weight now and he was appalled. No one believes that is just the top end of a healthy bmi for me! Anyway, when I said about 2.5 stone he was all competitive again because that's how much he had left. Ye gads!