Thanks Sorus for taking the time to write. Yes we all need to do whatever works and for how long. I think there is so much more science to this than we first think. It should be basic bugetting in reverse - take in less than you spend. But there is so much more to being human and trying to lose weight. It's not just physiological but psychological and for me that is the main battle. JUDDDing seems to tick that box - I can diet a day at a time (I think anyone can) and it works beautifully. Thanks again.