Diary: Shroomfest - episode 2 - Experiencing the evil maintenance. :-)

[Lostris]

Had a decent day today. Not sure caloriewise as I didn't count so may be over a bit but was active too. Big bikeride again <3

Scales were good for me again today.

Sadly not gotten into Slimmer of the year NL Guess my story wasn't important enough. Not sure how I feel about it yet but I really don't like it. Hahah!

Feeling very snotty today but... I will hopefully be better again soon..

*sigh*

x

 

[Lostris]

Soo.

Was very active yesterday and scales showed it! Yay me! Haha! Not much to say really have a big test coming up on thursday and after that it's easter!

Have promised myself I can have a bit of everything in meals (as easter meals have a looooooot of lovely bread!!) but no choccie's. Hoping to do okay with this hahah! Curious to see how that goes really...

Ahwell!!

xxx

 

[Lostris]

Troubles in paradise...



I'm noticing I have trouble with candy/bad evil foods. I buy some and tell myself not to have it all.. but then I have either all or too much.

Next time I go to store I tell myself I need to learn how to deal with those foods but yet, usually, the same thing happens. Because I've been active I've not really gained much but it's just not healthy and I want it gone.

Any ideas? I know I can just 'not buy it' or buy 1 small thing to last the week etc.. but I don't want to 'binge' on anything nice I buy in bigger than 1-portion quanity...

xx

 

[Serena A]

I'm noticing I have trouble with candy/bad evil foods. I buy some and tell myself not to have it all.. but then I have either all or too much.

Not sure about that one hunni - maybe the clue is in you referring to certain foods as bad/evil? I know you only say it flippantly but you do have a good food/bad food thing going on in general...until food is just food it probably won't ever lose its appeal if you know what I mean :sigh:

xx

 

[LellyCD]

Sadly not gotten into Slimmer of the year NL Guess my story wasn't important enough. Not sure how I feel about it yet but I really don't like it. Hahah!
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Gutted for you hunny! but hey ho you weren't doing it for anyone but yourself anyway and i'm sure the people that count really applaud you for your amazing acheivement:happy096:

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Any ideas? I know I can just 'not buy it' or buy 1 small thing to last the week ...

...do you already know the answer hun? if you know you are having troubles are you maybe setting too big a challenge too soon?

xx

 

[Lostris]

Not sure about that one hunni - maybe the clue is in you referring to certain foods as bad/evil? I know you only say it flippantly but you do have a good food/bad food thing going on in general...until food is just food it probably won't ever lose its appeal if you know what I mean :sigh:

xx

I guess that makes sense. Not sure how to change it though. I've always thought of food as good and bad foods. Good is basically healthy meals, fruit veg. Bad is candy, bad meals (pizza e.a.) etc. Though bad meals... don't bother me much if you know what I mean.

I really have no clue how to change this!!

Gutted for you hunny! but hey ho you weren't doing it for anyone but yourself anyway and i'm sure the people that count really applaud you for your amazing acheivement:happy096:


...do you already know the answer hun? if you know you are having troubles are you maybe setting too big a challenge too soon?

xx

Hiya,

Yea! One of my sisters friends saw me and was like 'woow you lost tonnes didn't you??!!'. Just very curious to see the other people's stories, the ones they picked above me so to say.

I guess you're right. I may be asking too much of myself to get something 'bad' and not be able to have just a little. Guess I'll get rid of it from my studentroom next week... that or I can feed it to my mouse.

Yes. I have a mouse. It walked in through a hole in my gardendoor, I saw it walk in.. must have been cold coz I don't have food on floor.. it strutted through my room out the door into the hallway. Then walked back into my room settled behind the fridge. I have a mousetrap, tried it with cheese. No cheese, no mouse. Then tried peanutbutter... 10min later, no pb no mouse.. tried this again same result. And yes, it really does go off. 3 for mouse 0 for me!

Will sadly be buying some rat poison or something to put around the trap.. It doesn't look evil and it's the tiniest little thing but I don't want a mouse in my room.

xxx

 

[Lostris]

Powowowow jippie yo jippie yay! :''))

So.

All my omg-i-cant-have-1-of-these-snacking has me up a bit in weight. I decided to be very good the next 2 days and a bit more indulgent at Easter.

I want to lose some more weight which didn't need to happen right away but I so won't be gaining it. What the hell!! Up 3lbs from my end of CB weight (under my CB-goal weight still but... whatever! (is this getting confusing?))

So, I set myself a goal to lose 10lbs (3 of which should be off asap!) and another 7 just to get on my way towards my ultimate goal. I need to do this with food because I like yummies way too much

Hope it will go okay. Had 1130kcal today (found 12kcal icecreams!!!!!! <33 from err... I forgot the name, sorry, but a known wannabe-slim person brand which also has 28kcal fruit icecream and 98kcal choc + white icecream too) and did a huuuuuuuuge biketrip.. huuuge I tell you. 2 hours, about 30miles or so? Bwah. My ass hurt after that!

I calcecd kcal for tomorrow at 1179 including 2x 12kcal icecream as treats.

Sunday will be easter and we will be doing gourmet as dinner. I am worried about this as not all the little burgers etc have kcal value. :sigh: I have very lowkcal sauce though which is still nice so I'm trying to keep 800-900kcal for this a total of max 1550 which are my maintenance kcals. Can have small breakkie, 1 egg etc. (Must have egg, it is easter after all! )

Monday will be potato balls and chicken and veg which is fine. I can just have my special K as breakkie and lunch which will leave me with quite a bit of calories for potato balls and chick and veg.

Right. So? Planned it all out. Now I have to plan in some Ben and Jerries lowfat choco icecream as desert somewhere... I bought it and had some.. and then some, but still long way from halfway the tub haha. I am the only one eating it lol. Ah well. Maybe 2nd easter is okay as I don't have too many kcals then. We shall see.

Going for another bikeride tomorrow, max half of todays ride though Will be going for another big ride on mondayb with dad and may go jogging on Sunday. I will be doing 60min on treadmil if I don't go out jogging / bikeriding. Seems like decent goals....

xx

 

[KD]

I calcecd kcal for tomorrow at 1179 including 2x 12kcal icecream as treats.

No. Never view food as a treat. That's where we went wrong in the first place. Food is food. It's a yummy way to nourish out bodies. We can still have things that are less healthy, but they aren't a treat.

Ahhh, just seen Serenas message about good/bad food. She's right you know.

Can have small breakkie, 1 egg etc. (Must have egg, it is easter after all! )

LOL.

Monday will be potato balls

What are these potato balls?

Going for another bikeride tomorrow, max half of todays ride though Will be going for another big ride on mondayb with dad and may go jogging on Sunday. I will be doing 60min on treadmil if I don't go out jogging / bikeriding. Seems like decent goals....

Sounds good, but is it? Are you exercising so you can eat more? Or exercising because it's fun and cool to keep fit and well?

Slightly different mindset here.

(found 12kcal icecreams!!!!!!

Oh come on! That is so, so wrong. Icecream cannot be 12 cals unless it's just 5ml of it So what's in this 'icecream'?

 

[Lostris]

No. Never view food as a treat. That's where we went wrong in the first place. Food is food. It's a yummy way to nourish out bodies. We can still have things that are less healthy, but they aren't a treat.

Ahhh, just seen Serenas message about good/bad food. She's right you know.

I know... but it's hard for me to change that view I've always had a very distinct seperation between good and bad foods and bad foods that aren't meals are treats. I have no idea how to change that mindset really...

What are these potato balls?

Umm.. round potatothingies with herbs/spices on them which you either make in the oven or bake in a.. err, pan... thing.

Sounds good, but is it? Are you exercising so you can eat more? Or exercising because it's fun and cool to keep fit and well?

Slightly different mindset here.

I am actually exercising because I need to lose fat and gain muscle (%wise I have too much bodyfat which just sucks and keeps me at about the same huge risk of heart desease as I was when I was morbidly obse) so I don't add food to my plan after. Might have a cracker when I'm frikkin starving after but won't go adding choccies. I want my body to be healthy and despite my huge weightloss; it isn't yet.
This body fat % thing really worries me and I really need to lose some more of that %s . If my body fat % was okay I'd still work out, to get toned up and because I actually feel great afterwards lol.. but I'd be less worried...

Oh come on! That is so, so wrong. Icecream cannot be 12 cals unless it's just 5ml of it So what's in this 'icecream'?

I don't know the name of the brand, will check it later. It's like a small popsicle-like icecream.. or well.. that's how I'd describe it anyway

xx

 

[KD]

I know... but it's hard for me to change that view I've always had a very distinct seperation between good and bad foods and bad foods that aren't meals are treats. I have no idea how to change that mindset really...

Look for alternatives. It's really important to change that mindset, or you will be forever chasing the pounds.

Food is food. You could say "food is food, junk food is junk", but that takes the fun out of it all

Food is a fantastic way of nourishing your body, but it should be for physical satisfaction, not emotional satisfaction. Using it as a treat, is using it for emotional satisfaction.

So instead of looking at food and thinking "how can I treat myself today", firstly decide whether you have to 'treat' yourself each day anyway, and then why we feel the need to use food as that treat.

That doesn't mean there is no place for unhealthy foods in our lives, but more to do with putting it in perspective. Giving it less priority and making sure we can 'treat' ourselves in non-foodie ways to make up for it.

Umm.. round potatothingies with herbs/spices on them which you either make in the oven or bake in a.. err, pan... thing.

Ah, I see. Do we have them in the UK I wonder?

I am actually exercising because I need to lose fat and gain muscle (%wise I have too much bodyfat which just sucks and keeps me at about the same huge risk of heart desease as I was when I was morbidly obse)

You are doing loads of cardio. It can help reduce bodyfat and gain muscle, but it's quite unefficient at it. Too much, and not enough 'resistance' exercise, will mean you'll lose more muscle rather than the other way around, especially if you are quite slim, and not eating loads.

 

[Lostris]

Look for alternatives. It's really important to change that mindset, or you will be forever chasing the pounds.

Food is food. You could say "food is food, junk food is junk", but that takes the fun out of it all

Food is a fantastic way of nourishing your body, but it should be for physical satisfaction, not emotional satisfaction. Using it as a treat, is using it for emotional satisfaction.

So instead of looking at food and thinking "how can I treat myself today", firstly decide whether you have to 'treat' yourself each day anyway, and then why we feel the need to use food as that treat.

That doesn't mean there is no place for unhealthy foods in our lives, but more to do with putting it in perspective. Giving it less priority and making sure we can 'treat' ourselves in non-foodie ways to make up for it.

Oh I treat myself with clothes in normal sizes a lot. Sadly it's quite an expensive habit. Though I did get lovely baby pink coloured jeans and sports jeans... lovely, lovely.

I just don't really know how to cope with the more unhealthy foods outside of meals or as desrt. I want choccie sometimes but my body doesn't need it. I want it coz it's lovely. I want desert but don't allow myself to have it and then end up having too much choccie at my tv-tea-thing (we always have tea and bisc/choc at the tv around 9pm)

I treat myself to foods which are 'bad' in my book because otherwise I would never be allowed to have them (I'd tell myself I'm not.) .. which just plain annoys me.

Not sure if that makes sense. I don't 'need' a treat everyday, obviously. Don't know what it is really...

Ah, I see. Do we have them in the UK I wonder?

I think so? Not 100% obviously as I haven't recently been in UK supermarkets.... they're quite nice.

You are doing loads of cardio. It can help reduce bodyfat and gain muscle, but it's quite unefficient at it. Too much, and not enough 'resistance' exercise, will mean you'll lose more muscle rather than the other way around, especially if you are quite slim, and not eating loads.

Oh... hrm.. Reckon I should start doing weightstuff at the gym then.. on those cool fitness machines. Been putting it off

I don't want to actually loose muscle.. I need to lose fat.. Bah

x

 

[KD]

Oh I treat myself with clothes in normal sizes a lot. Sadly it's quite an expensive habit. Though I did get lovely baby pink coloured jeans and sports jeans... lovely, lovely.

Ooooh...cool!

Wish I could wear pink jeans!

I want choccie sometimes but my body doesn't need it. I want it coz it's lovely. I want desert but don't allow myself to have it and then end up having too much choccie at my tv-tea-thing (we always have tea and bisc/choc at the tv around 9pm)

You can have choccie. You can have desert. You can have bisc/choc at 9pm. If it's an 'unhealthy' desert, you might be pushing your luck having all 3 in the day, but maybe not. Depends on what the portion size is.

But it's the mindset that maybe the problem. Remember, it's not about the food, it's how we view it.

The choc/bisc etc needs to have the same purpose in your mind as the more healthier foods. It's not a treat nor a reward. It's just food. The more you look on it as a treat, or something you 'deserve' for eating enough healthy stuff, the more special it becomes in your mind. Then, when you feel like you need a treat or a reward, along comes the food...sigh.

Also, work on getting those 'wants' in order. I want choccie cos it's nice. I want desert but I will deprive myself I want choc/biscuits at night. Remember it will always be there for you. You can have it anytime. Maybe even tomorrow

Consider this. My day: I would like a healthy breakfast. It'll be yummy. I'll have a good lunch....something good for my body that I will enjoy. I may finish it with some chocolate from my easter egg. That'll be nice.... (the lunch and the choc), but I would like to have some choc tonight when I watch a film. Maybe I'll have it tonight instead...that will be good :clap: (sets out appropriate portion) Ooohhh, exciting stuff, what yummy dinner can I have that I'll enjoy, that's also healthy? Well, lunch is so nice that I might make a little more and have half for dinner tonight rather than eat the whole lot in one go.

Then, just say, the evening comes and the film is not on. Well, the idea was to eat the choc whilst watching the film. Do I still want it? Probably...but that's fine...I'll save it for tomorrow when the film is on. It's no big deal. I'm not denying myself, just delaying it

I treat myself to foods which are 'bad' in my book because otherwise I would never be allowed to have them (I'd tell myself I'm not.) .. which just plain annoys me.

So don't 'treat' yourself, 'allow' yourself. Knowing you can have them, is different than feeling you must have them or that you deserve them. I 'allow' myself anything food wise. I give myself permission to eat whatever I want. Doesn't mean that I have to eat it, or that I should make sure that I have something 'bad' each day just to prove that I know I can have it. It's just knowing I can have that makes me know I don't have to deprive myself.

It's really hard to explain, but I hope that things might be a bit clearer?

 

[Lostris]

Ooooh...cool!

Wish I could wear pink jeans!

They're soooooooooooooo nice!

You can have choccie. You can have desert. You can have bisc/choc at 9pm. If it's an 'unhealthy' desert, you might be pushing your luck having all 3 in the day, but maybe not. Depends on what the portion size is.

But it's the mindset that maybe the problem. Remember, it's not about the food, it's how we view it.

Realistically speaking I can't. My maintenace kcals are 1545 (no joke) because I have high body fat % and just not burning much. If I'd have these things 3x a day it's a lot and I wouldn't have calories left for dinner.

The choc/bisc etc needs to have the same purpose in your mind as the more healthier foods. It's not a treat nor a reward. It's just food. The more you look on it as a treat, or something you 'deserve' for eating enough healthy stuff, the more special it becomes in your mind. Then, when you feel like you need a treat or a reward, along comes the food...sigh.

This really is hard for me to get my head around. I know that might sound silly, it might not but... it's hard to change habits that have formed during the years I guess. Will do my best!

Also, work on getting those 'wants' in order. I want choccie cos it's nice. I want desert but I will deprive myself I want choc/biscuits at night. Remember it will always be there for you. You can have it anytime. Maybe even tomorrow

I will try putting it off. It makes sense. When I put something off or put it away for a later time I often just forget about it and don;t have it at all lol.

Consider this. My day: I would like a healthy breakfast. It'll be yummy. I'll have a good lunch....something good for my body that I will enjoy. I may finish it with some chocolate from my easter egg. That'll be nice.... (the lunch and the choc), but I would like to have some choc tonight when I watch a film. Maybe I'll have it tonight instead...that will be good :clap: (sets out appropriate portion) Ooohhh, exciting stuff, what yummy dinner can I have that I'll enjoy, that's also healthy? Well, lunch is so nice that I might make a little more and have half for dinner tonight rather than eat the whole lot in one go.

This makes sense. I try to add fruit/veg to my breakkie and lunch though I generally have cereal as breakkie and an apple around 11ish. I think it's important to have mostly healthy good food but I am just.. really struggling with all the rest.

Then, just say, the evening comes and the film is not on. Well, the idea was to eat the choc whilst watching the film. Do I still want it? Probably...but that's fine...I'll save it for tomorrow when the film is on. It's no big deal. I'm not denying myself, just delaying it
So don't 'treat' yourself, 'allow' yourself. Knowing you can have them, is different than feeling you must have them or that you deserve them. I 'allow' myself anything food wise. I give myself permission to eat whatever I want. Doesn't mean that I have to eat it, or that I should make sure that I have something 'bad' each day just to prove that I know I can have it. It's just knowing I can have that makes me know I don't have to deprive myself.

It's really hard to explain, but I hope that things might be a bit clearer?

It's clearer now but still very hard haha!!! Guess it's one of those tough things. I struggle with this but not all the time, I have times when I never even look twice at the biccie in front of me and feel fine about it. I can go a week without even worrying about that.. just that lately I've been craving it more and I just don't know how to turn it off.

Will definately try putting it off!! Seems like a very good thing to do; I want choc now... I tell myself I can have it e.g. tonight.. when it's evening I've brushed my teeth and then realise ' oh wait I was still having choc, ah well I will tomorrow '. etc. that does happen!! I usually try to brush teeth early because anything you eat after doing that is gross hahah!!!

xxx

 

[sleepybird]

You're not alone with struggling with this, Lostris. I feel just like you do and am trying to think like KD. Do you think if we ask her nicely, she will adopt us?

 

[Lostris]

You're not alone with struggling with this, Lostris. I feel just like you do and am trying to think like KD. Do you think if we ask her nicely, she will adopt us?

Omg I am too! Reckon she would right? I mean, she has a piano room she's bound to have a room for us to stay! I would eat whatever she cooked..... and I'm way less likely to have choc and biccies if they're someone elses hahah!!

I agree with this idea. Dear Great Lady KD, please adopt me and sleepybird!!

 

[sleepybird]

We wont take up much room lol!! x

 

[Lostris]

We wont take up much room lol!! x

Hahahah!!!!

 

[Lostris]

Yawn.

So I'm sort of doing okay. Scales are still stable and I'm sticking to my kcals and still fit in my pants haha! I do feel bloated and uncomfortable though but hope that'll pass..

Not much to say really..

xx

 

[sleepybird]

You said it well though x

 

[Lostris]

You said it well though x

Thanks, thanks.

I feel nauseaus now,.. we had nasi and satay.. (?? chicken with peanutbutterlike sauce) always makes me feel sick haha!! Sucks big time. Didnt have a lot of the satay and had to leave half my plate coz of it... bah Stupid food!!!!!!

Ah well.

Still have my mouse. Score is now 4 for mouse (as in eating bait and not dying) 0 for me. :break_diet::break_diet: