Lily's Lyrical Lollop. Destination: Land's End...

Lily, don't worry about what Cambridge has done for you in the past, if Marisa's way feels right for NOW then go with it! Things change & won't suit you forever. There's no point doing something unsustainable for you at this time, that will make you unhappy. And we'll all be here regardless :D
 
ive just had the "maintaining using cambridge" chat with my cdc. she thinks its great ive sts for the last fortnight, me not so happy bout that since it involved eating like food was going out of fashion for a week and then ssing for a week, ive been doing this for about 6 - 7 months now and it is depressing, i live in hope of finding the answer before i hit 23 and a half stone again
 
I have been on that hamster wheel for years too and am terrified of going right back up there.

Does it make a difference if you give yourself permission to not worry about it for a while? x
 
im a born worrier, i have sleepless nights worrying about the most rediculous things
 
I soooooo recognise that trait x
 
Hi Lily, et al --

I have gotten caught up on your thread -- and as usual want to put my two cents in, so I will.

I think that you should, perhaps, go back to Beck and the beginning, then work through the getting ready to diet steps, and choose TWO diets. Start with one and if, after you have given it a fair chance, you find (along with doing Beck) that it isn't suting you, then change to other (hopefully, very different diet) and choose a second one for back up. As long as you keep trying you will (or should) make progress. Then, if you are using Beck and have instituted some of the changes -- if you take a break from dieting proper -- you should be able to hold your own.
I was a month away from my programme: but Beck's rules (i.e. sitting to eat, leaving food on your plate, only eating to comfortably full, drinking your water, unplanned and planned fitness, trying to limited extra calories to two hundred a day when on holiday, etc.) helped me to maintain my losses. I went back to my CWPC on May 3rd (my last visit had been April 5th) and weighed exactly the same!

Now, I am trying to get back into my programme -- and I think I will start at the beginning (working through the first few weeks in a couple of days) and using CD810 (with South Beach food options, as I am still cooking SB for OH), I will shed the remaining regain and continuing learning how to manage my food, fitness and maintain my losses.

BTW, OH has now lost a total of 3 stone since January 2nd on South Beach.

Hang in there, Lily. You are inspirational (and a good writer).
 
Evening folks

Lily, don't worry about what Cambridge has done for you in the past, if Marisa's way feels right for NOW then go with it! Things change & won't suit you forever. There's no point doing something unsustainable for you at this time, that will make you unhappy. And we'll all be here regardless :D

It does feel right for now. I just feel that if I do officially decide to ditch Cambridge, that really will be it. I think I've reached that point where I just wouldn't want to go back to my CDC and say, "Please can I do it again?" Which to date, I've done, ooh, too many times to remember. And every time, I've been convinced that this time will be the last, that I won't let anything get in my way, blah, blah. That in itself is no good for my self-esteem. I'm just reinforcing failure - to the point that I've probably failed even before I get home with my Cambridge products and sup on my first banana tetra. It's an endless loop, a mobius strip.

But - and don't laugh - I like being a bit of an expert on Cambridge. I quite like coming on here and giving my two-penneth. I've learnt an awful lot about the diet and how it works. But I can't post in this part of the forum if I'm not doing the diet. Not unless I somehow pretend that I'm in the maintenance stage with 'only' 4 stones left to lose, LOL. :8855:

That's no reason to stay on Cambridge though, is it? Especially as the longer I keep messing up, the less credibility anything I might say about sticking to the diet will have.

ive just had the "maintaining using cambridge" chat with my cdc. she thinks its great ive sts for the last fortnight, me not so happy bout that since it involved eating like food was going out of fashion for a week and then ssing for a week, ive been doing this for about 6 - 7 months now and it is depressing, i live in hope of finding the answer before i hit 23 and a half stone again

I think you've got a bit of what's going on in my head going on in your head too. Like me, you were several stones bigger when you started Cambridge, and now you're much smaller than you were - and so neither of us are at the same level of desperation anymore. I definitely think it is possible to rediscover your Mojo on Cambridge but I think you have to find a new angle to it - to get your mind to view the whole process differently. I think swapping to this diet and that diet has been me trying to cut the corner on all that - never mind sorting out my head, it must be the diet, I tell myself, and off I trot to SW or WW - only to come trotting straight back to Cambridge within a week.

I'm pretty sure that's why I'm unwilling to formally declare this stint on Cambridge as being over - because it's like I'm scared that if I do that, I'll lose the plot on doing the Marisa diet thing and I'll have failed again. I keep thinking that if I can show myself that I can stick to a wheat-free/dairy-free diet for at least a week that maybe it will be okay, that maybe I will have found the diet for me - and I can officially give Cambridge the heave-ho.

I have been on that hamster wheel for years too and am terrified of going right back up there.

Does it make a difference if you give yourself permission to not worry about it for a while? x

Like Claire, I worry all the time. It's my default setting. I'm better at letting things go over my head than I used to be but I've still got a way to go. I have a tendency to take things personally when in fact, they're just challenges looking for an answer. I'm getting there, but I'm a work in progress. So I guess the short answer to your question Jo is 'no' (why didn't I just say that? :))

Hi Lily, et al --

I have gotten caught up on your thread -- and as usual want to put my two cents in, so I will.

I think that you should, perhaps, go back to Beck and the beginning, then work through the getting ready to diet steps, and choose TWO diets. Start with one and if, after you have given it a fair chance, you find (along with doing Beck) that it isn't suting you, then change to other (hopefully, very different diet) and choose a second one for back up. As long as you keep trying you will (or should) make progress. Then, if you are using Beck and have instituted some of the changes -- if you take a break from dieting proper -- you should be able to hold your own.
I was a month away from my programme: but Beck's rules (i.e. sitting to eat, leaving food on your plate, only eating to comfortably full, drinking your water, unplanned and planned fitness, trying to limited extra calories to two hundred a day when on holiday, etc.) helped me to maintain my losses. I went back to my CWPC on May 3rd (my last visit had been April 5th) and weighed exactly the same!

Now, I am trying to get back into my programme -- and I think I will start at the beginning (working through the first few weeks in a couple of days) and using CD810 (with South Beach food options, as I am still cooking SB for OH), I will shed the remaining regain and continuing learning how to manage my food, fitness and maintain my losses.

BTW, OH has now lost a total of 3 stone since January 2nd on South Beach.

Hang in there, Lily. You are inspirational (and a good writer).

I think you're the one providing the inspiration, Mel. :hug99:

I do need to look at Beck again, to yet again see if I can refine my ARCs into something I truly honestly mean (and not what I think I should be telling myself). I do think though that it is quite hard to combine Beck and Cambridge - for example, you can't really do the hunger thing, because hunger in ketosis is a very different thing to hunger at any other time, you can't practice leaving food on your plate (unless of course you left a gulp of tetra in the carton :eek:). I'm working my way up to confessing that Cambridge may not be right for me anymore but I'm not quite there yet either... :D

Heey Lilly hope your well today ?

And taking each day as it comes hunnie x

I am trying to, hun. :) I'm trying really hard not to think of time in terms of how many pounds I could get shot of - because the moment I start counting weeks and speculating, something seems to short-circuit in my poor brain. :D So instead, I'm doing some heavy duty visualisation of my slender self in a slinky fitted red dress, having fun at a BBQ with a glass of Chardonnay in my hand...
 
Lily, I am knocked by your reflection and depth of thinking again. I think that you instincively know where you are going with this and what you have to do....


It does feel right for now. I just feel that if I do officially decide to ditch Cambridge, that really will be it. I think I've reached that point where I just wouldn't want to go back to my CDC and say, "Please can I do it again?" Which to date, I've done, ooh, too many times to remember. And every time, I've been convinced that this time will be the last, that I won't let anything get in my way, blah, blah. That in itself is no good for my self-esteem. I'm just reinforcing failure - to the point that I've probably failed even before I get home with my Cambridge products and sup on my first banana tetra. It's an endless loop, a mobius strip.

'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'.....my fave quote by the lovely Albert Einstein. He would follow his gut on this and he was a geet polymath and that.

But - and don't laugh - I like being a bit of an expert on Cambridge. I quite like coming on here and giving my two-penneth. I've learnt an awful lot about the diet and how it works. But I can't post in this part of the forum if I'm not doing the diet. Not unless I somehow pretend that I'm in the maintenance stage with 'only' 4 stones left to lose, LOL. :8855:

I didn't realise the forum rules were so strict. You are a total source of authority on this diet (along with being funny and an exellent writer) and I'd be sad. But I'm not selfish enough to expect you to put my needs above yours. Or am I? :eek:

So instead, I'm doing some heavy duty visualisation of my slender self in a slinky fitted red dress, having fun at a BBQ with a glass of Chardonnay in my hand...[/QUOTE]

You will wear that dress. Amazing because when I started out at a size 24 I used to visualise myself in the red dress Goldie Hawn wore in 'Death Becomes Her'. No, not one she wears with her middle blasted out...the other one.

Anyway, to round up....even standing still for a while is better that painful lurches in the wrong direction.

I have had to give up a regular gym and running habit that I hold dear to do CD because my old patterns weren't working. If you are not getting what you want you can stop.....you can always sneak back in.

Lots of love

J
 
My quotes have not come up in them blue boxes....how on earth do you do that?? Grrrr
 
My quotes have not come up in them blue boxes....how on earth do you do that?? Grrrr

:)

There are 2 ways.

(1) Hit the button that says QUOTE - you'll find it at the bottom right of each post.

(2) Put [ QUOTE ] at the beginning of the part you want to quote and [ /QUOTE] at the end of the part you want to quote - but leave out the spaces. I couldn't leave out the spaces here because the HTML code would've immediately put my words into quotes. :)

If you don't do the QUOTE and square brackets thing at the beginning and end of each quote, it won't show up as a quote. So if you want to split up someone else's post into segments, you need to do the QUOTE and /QUOTE thing for each segment. Does that make sense?

I'll introduce you to the joys of multi-quoting lots of posts once you've mastered this... :D
 
By the way - I'll reply properly to your other post in a bit - OH has made me a cup of tea and t'would be rude not to go and drink it!
 
Oh Lily, please stop putting yourself down. You're wise, smart, funny and a huge source of information and inspiration... and no matter how you decide to continue the journey, you can't take that, or your credibility, away.

 
Hurraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! x
 
I guess I'll just have to be on the road to maintenance then... :)

Sorry it's taken me so long to come back. The internet's been down around here for more than an hour. My son doesn't know what to do with himself when he can't play on XBox Live. I suggested homework but he wasn't impressed. :D

Jo - yes, I love that definition of insanity thing. It's very similar to 'If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got' line. I think I just take ever more convoluted versions of doing what I've always done - so convoluted that I manage to kid myself I'm doing stuff differently. Except that I'm not, LOL. Oh, the depths of my self-deception... :D

I'm happy enough doing what I'm doing diet-wise for now. I think I'll stick to my plan of giving the no wheat/no dairy thing a whirl for the next week, at least until I'm due to see my CDC again. That should give me long enough to make a judgement about whether I want to carry on.
 
Have a good day today Lily :)
 
I'm back to add, no matter what diet you choose, you aint going anywhere lady!!

There are other people on SW, Exante etc, that comment on the CD threads, why shouldn't you? You are the most knowledgable person here & that's invaluable! I know it was to me when I was new & still is now. We need you!! xx And we like you a bit too ;)
 
Jo - yes, I love that definition of insanity thing. It's very similar to 'If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got' line. I think I just take ever more convoluted versions of doing what I've always done - so convoluted that I manage to kid myself I'm doing stuff differently. Except that I'm not, LOL. Oh, the depths of my self-deception... :D

I'm happy enough doing what I'm doing diet-wise for now. I think I'll stick to my plan of giving the no wheat/no dairy thing a whirl for the next week, at least until I'm due to see my CDC again. That should give me long enough to make a judgement about whether I want to carry on.


Lily, you are properly my mental twin.

I feel that what you are planning is measured, reasonable and most imprortantly a break from the conveyor belt.

Magic.

And I can quote and that

xx
 
OMG.. i seemed to have missed alot Lily aint going anywhere are u ??:eek::eek::eek:

come and tell us what your thinking about doing..!:) xx
 
LOL, I'm trying not to think about what I'm doing. :D :D

I am currently on a no-dairy, no-wheat health plan. I have discovered that rice milk doesn't taste much different in tea to ordinary milk except it's hard to make it look milky. I have discovered that it's possible to learn to like peppermint tea. I have rediscovered beetroot and sweetcorn. And best of all I have rediscovered the joys of going to the toilet without (as I think Carla put it so charmingly earlier) 'chemical help'. I don't care if that's TMI... :8855:

I'm on a Ross n Rachel kind of break, Shanny. I read a book by Marisa Peer and now I find I can't drink milkshake. :eek: So I'm doing her diet for a while and so far I'm doing okay... :cross:
 
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