Ketoveggie
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Good luck at the Doctors, Alecto,
Ask the doc if you can have a full blood count done.
xxx
Ask the doc if you can have a full blood count done.
xxx
Weight loss again
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Alecto_on_LCD
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I feel like I've been slightly derailed by the 'feeling physically lousy' stuff. It convinced me to eat real food when i probably could've done without or had half a bar. I'm not sure. What I'm sure of though is that my head needs to be in this game. I have been on 600cals mostly for the past 4weeks and a half. I don't want to yoyo diet, I don't want to extend this diet more than needed, either. If i am worried i am cheating myself then I will not do it. I felt crap and hopefully I won't anymore or there's something else (other than real food) i can do about it. Like more water. Or sleep.
I have been stressed. I feel my entire brain power is consumed with this diet. As a consequence I feel like my work has suffered and could have had a lot more accomplished by now. Time is ticking there l and I am running behind and need to have some stuff done before I will have to focus on something else entirely.
Ive had my dentist appointment (all fine, another app tomorrow morning for a clean) and came straight home. Happy with it - with all the moving around I've not had a check in 3 years.
I've gone in the bedroom with my laptop and I'm getting this piece of writing done throughout today if it's the last thing i do. I already had my breakfast bar and lunch soup. I'll have a shake later on.
I will not be joining my partner (again) for meals for the rest of the week at least. Im shutting the door to any temptations or possibilities of people saying things as it's too distracting and requires even more energy that I feel i have at the moment. I was invited to a girly evening in a different city at the weekend but with my being a bit up and down with how i feel physically I apologised, explained, and will not be going. I am hoping I did not offend or upset them but I really dont know what even tomorrow is going to be like. I really would've liked to see my old friends but I do not feel like i have the energy...and again, cannot know what level I'll be at on a given day. What i do know, however, is that im sticking to this, end-of and I am getting to goal and staying there.
3L water and 6k steps already but more to come. Fixating on work rather than diet this afternoon hopefully with some success.
I have been stressed. I feel my entire brain power is consumed with this diet. As a consequence I feel like my work has suffered and could have had a lot more accomplished by now. Time is ticking there l and I am running behind and need to have some stuff done before I will have to focus on something else entirely.
Ive had my dentist appointment (all fine, another app tomorrow morning for a clean) and came straight home. Happy with it - with all the moving around I've not had a check in 3 years.
I've gone in the bedroom with my laptop and I'm getting this piece of writing done throughout today if it's the last thing i do. I already had my breakfast bar and lunch soup. I'll have a shake later on.
I will not be joining my partner (again) for meals for the rest of the week at least. Im shutting the door to any temptations or possibilities of people saying things as it's too distracting and requires even more energy that I feel i have at the moment. I was invited to a girly evening in a different city at the weekend but with my being a bit up and down with how i feel physically I apologised, explained, and will not be going. I am hoping I did not offend or upset them but I really dont know what even tomorrow is going to be like. I really would've liked to see my old friends but I do not feel like i have the energy...and again, cannot know what level I'll be at on a given day. What i do know, however, is that im sticking to this, end-of and I am getting to goal and staying there.
3L water and 6k steps already but more to come. Fixating on work rather than diet this afternoon hopefully with some success.
Alecto_on_LCD
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Day 31. 70.2kg.
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Want to log the end of day earlier. Wanted to have a liquid only day just for fun. Had 2 shakes (loved my first frappe!), 1 dr pepper zero, 4l water and more on its way. I am not a v sweet tooth person so having 3 sweet cold meals doesnt sit well with me. Instead i had 1 of the LL soups (ramen) i just got. Has the same 200cals as the exantes, but less sugar and carbs. Omg! It is delicious. Ill only keep it as a treat - but wow! Really worth that 2 quid. Put more water and eating it slow to make it last. Altho already full lol. 10k steps (not by trying, just happened).
Catch y'all tomorrow x
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Want to log the end of day earlier. Wanted to have a liquid only day just for fun. Had 2 shakes (loved my first frappe!), 1 dr pepper zero, 4l water and more on its way. I am not a v sweet tooth person so having 3 sweet cold meals doesnt sit well with me. Instead i had 1 of the LL soups (ramen) i just got. Has the same 200cals as the exantes, but less sugar and carbs. Omg! It is delicious. Ill only keep it as a treat - but wow! Really worth that 2 quid. Put more water and eating it slow to make it last. Altho already full lol. 10k steps (not by trying, just happened).
Catch y'all tomorrow
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RareKiwi27
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Alt you’re doing great. When is your dr appointment? Hope the pain has eased for you.
My friend always says comparison is like cancer it eats away at you, it’s unhealthy. Remember you are the only one with your life experiences and on your own journey no one else’s is the same. You’re surviving in a positive and insightful way
My friend always says comparison is like cancer it eats away at you, it’s unhealthy. Remember you are the only one with your life experiences and on your own journey no one else’s is the same. You’re surviving in a positive and insightful way
Alecto_on_LCD
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Seeing the doc on the 7th August (same day as my next alcohol counselling appt actually). A bit of time until then but I will manage.
Pain is up and down actually. Goes between zero- 2-6 on a constant basis. Seems to get to a 6 after I eat. Coffee brings me to a 3-ish so I've reduced my coffee intake significantly (just 2 a day in the morning as opposed to continuously drinking coffee). It's bearable but annoying. I did a LOT of research and it could be something with my liver, gallstones or billiary dyskinesia. I know what tests to ask my doctor for, the NICE guidelines on management and treatments, and I am refusing any surgeries unless there's no other choice in the world. Whatever it is, it should be early days and something can be done about it.
At least the nausea I'm getting with the pain has switched me off any desire for bad foods or alcohol - I had a sniff at a drink the other day, out of curiosity, and it was disgusting. So there's an upside to this lol!
I'm doing this and focusing on work and that's all.
Alecto_on_LCD
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Forgot to say - thanks so much for checking on me
I really appreciate it! How are stuff with the trip, kiddos and your mum today? Hope your hanging in there. You'll be back soon but I hope you get to enjoy the surroundings!
castingnasturtiums
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*catches up* Oh yikes, I'm so sorry you're having a rough time - the pain sounds really scary, and I hope the doctor is able to figure out what's wrong and help you.
I had a gallstone about five years ago which did present similar symptoms (the only one I've ever had before or since) - nausea, trembling, intense shooting pains in weird places, nebulous sense that I was dying y'know how it goes
Glad to hear you're managing to stick mostly to plan through it, as well as living your life and telling people who are trying to control you and how to care of yourself where to get off. I cheered for you when I read that
Something I would potentially think about is going easy on your steps if you're having diet struggles, either in terms of mood, pain, or just hunger. I know some people are adding exercise towards the end of their diet but VLCDs are sort of designed to be the opposite of exercise. Essentially they ask nothing of you except not eating and the weight goes away. If you push yourself too hard, I find it can make you hungrier and sort of upset the balance of your body a bit. Before food week I was had literally cut my walk to work down to a mile each way (it's two unless I get a bus halfway) and I had no guilt about it at all.
I had a gallstone about five years ago which did present similar symptoms (the only one I've ever had before or since) - nausea, trembling, intense shooting pains in weird places, nebulous sense that I was dying y'know how it goes
Glad to hear you're managing to stick mostly to plan through it, as well as living your life and telling people who are trying to control you and how to care of yourself where to get off. I cheered for you when I read that
Something I would potentially think about is going easy on your steps if you're having diet struggles, either in terms of mood, pain, or just hunger. I know some people are adding exercise towards the end of their diet but VLCDs are sort of designed to be the opposite of exercise. Essentially they ask nothing of you except not eating and the weight goes away. If you push yourself too hard, I find it can make you hungrier and sort of upset the balance of your body a bit. Before food week I was had literally cut my walk to work down to a mile each way (it's two unless I get a bus halfway) and I had no guilt about it at all.
Alecto_on_LCD
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Finished with the work task i was working on yesterday and feel chuffed. 2 more similar objectives for this week. When i finished i felt i wanted a break (i do have quite flexible times at work atm apart from meetings- downside im mostly on my own all the time and no one knows if im in/out/alive/dead etc). So i decided to go somewhere in the sunshine to get myself planned for objective 2 which will hopefully be done by midday Friday.
I made the mistake of getting pepsi max and whilst sipping from it checked the ingredients online. Citric acid. Facepalm. Left it there. I know its not the end of the world but i wouldnt have wanted it if i knew.
Aaanyway...made a stop at the local superdrug to see if there were any exante products. They now have a massive bit only with meal replacement stuff, all stocked up and with a big sign saying 'more to come'. Didnt have exante but mostly slimfast, lighterlife and atkins. Hope that will be fine but i got myself some LL stuffs within the same calorie content as exante just to give me some variety and keep the curiosity going. Probs gonna have one now and again simply to vary things as they are so much more expensive!
Going home for some work. Thinking of loosening up my step count a tad to see if that prevents lousy spells.
Oh and a recent up-side: my size 14 jeans (non stretchy) are starting to fall of me and my bra is a bit big. My tummy is coming down too. Starting to see effects here!
I made the mistake of getting pepsi max and whilst sipping from it checked the ingredients online. Citric acid. Facepalm. Left it there. I know its not the end of the world but i wouldnt have wanted it if i knew.
Aaanyway...made a stop at the local superdrug to see if there were any exante products. They now have a massive bit only with meal replacement stuff, all stocked up and with a big sign saying 'more to come'. Didnt have exante but mostly slimfast, lighterlife and atkins. Hope that will be fine but i got myself some LL stuffs within the same calorie content as exante just to give me some variety and keep the curiosity going. Probs gonna have one now and again simply to vary things as they are so much more expensive!
Going home for some work. Thinking of loosening up my step count a tad to see if that prevents lousy spells.
Oh and a recent up-side: my size 14 jeans (non stretchy) are starting to fall of me and my bra is a bit big. My tummy is coming down too. Starting to see effects here!
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Alecto_on_LCD
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Ha! Was thinking just the same about the steps today! Thank youuuuuu*catches up* Oh yikes, I'm so sorry you're having a rough time - the pain sounds really scary, and I hope the doctor is able to figure out what's wrong and help you.
I had a gallstone about five years ago which did present similar symptoms (the only one I've ever had before or since) - nausea, trembling, intense shooting pains in weird places, nebulous sense that I was dying y'know how it goes
Glad to hear you're managing to stick mostly to plan through it, as well as living your life and telling people who are trying to control you and how to care of yourself where to get off. I cheered for you when I read that
Something I would potentially think about is going easy on your steps if you're having diet struggles, either in terms of mood, pain, or just hunger. I know some people are adding exercise towards the end of their diet but VLCDs are sort of designed to be the opposite of exercise. Essentially they ask nothing of you except not eating and the weight goes away. If you push yourself too hard, I find it can make you hungrier and sort of upset the balance of your body a bit. Before food week I was had literally cut my walk to work down to a mile each way (it's two unless I get a bus halfway) and I had no guilt about it at all.
yeah i think thats a good approach to keep me even more afloat.
Alecto_on_LCD
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Day 32. 70kg.
1kg to go to reach my first milestone of 69kg.
Tad tired today. Taking it easy apart from the aqua aerobics in the afternoon. Wouldn't have gone if i handt booked it 1wk in advance. Not doing that again. Can just pay on the door.
Also....i fit in size 12 jeans!!!! Woooop! A tad uncomfortable still but they are freshly washed. But improvements ongoing clearly. Next stop my size 10s!
1kg to go to reach my first milestone of 69kg.
Tad tired today. Taking it easy apart from the aqua aerobics in the afternoon. Wouldn't have gone if i handt booked it 1wk in advance. Not doing that again. Can just pay on the door.
Also....i fit in size 12 jeans!!!! Woooop! A tad uncomfortable still but they are freshly washed. But improvements ongoing clearly. Next stop my size 10s!
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Alecto_on_LCD
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Alecto_on_LCD
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I wonder what the rules are with VLCD once i get to healthy BMI? As that will be my next milestone...
RareKiwi27
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Once you reach a healthy BMI I would
Up to 800 cals and increase activity.
Up to 800 cals and increase activity.
Alecto_on_LCD
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Good TS day. Porridge, chilli beans and strawberry shake. 7k steps, aqua aerobics and 5.75l water (more to come tho).
Have a good evening yall!
Have a good evening yall!
Alecto_on_LCD
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Day 33. 69.7kg. Oh yeah!!! Not seen this number since November 2016.
On we go to next goal: 64kg.
Busy day ahead. Have a good one y'all!
On we go to next goal: 64kg.
Busy day ahead. Have a good one y'all!
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Alecto_on_LCD
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Coming to the end of working Friday. Meeting a couple of friends in town for a drink [alcoholic for them, tea, water or Dr Pepper for me]. Started to feel peckish which is annoying. Well hungryness (new word I invented, heh) can stay right away. Should not mess with my stubbornness do kick this fat away!
I had the white chocolate and raspberry bar (which is my personal favourite) and then I'll have an early one when I get home. Staying away from the kitchen for the rest of the day. Bit silly I have to put this in place when actually, today, for the first time since starting this diet the food posters at all the bus stops have stopped representing any interest. If anything they made me think 'bleah'....But it just shows that hunger and cravings can hit at any time and for no apparent reason. And I need to stay aware and on top of these things. And I think this is the key thing about changing my own behaviours when interacting with food. If I said no - I can feel confident in myself to keep to 'no' and I can indeed trust myself a bit more than I am.
I looked into M Mosley's 800cal/8wk plan and the specifics of the Cambridge steps. I have slightly combined approaches to design (in first draft ) a plan for when I reach my healthy BMI to help me carry on with Exante/healthy food until I reach goal + 3more kg for the expected bounce back. Once I start reintroducing food I would like to take it in steps until I reach a maintenance daily calorie intake of 1500. But it will take baby steps. I'll speak more about this when the time comes and if I end up deserving it (whatever works as a reward, isn't that right?). I'll think about it in more detail now and again to ensure it's a personalised plan I can maintain.
It is going to be a treat going through the food reintroducing process, a process which I really want to enjoy after a long time of knowing that I've stuck to this first step.
I had the white chocolate and raspberry bar (which is my personal favourite) and then I'll have an early one when I get home. Staying away from the kitchen for the rest of the day. Bit silly I have to put this in place when actually, today, for the first time since starting this diet the food posters at all the bus stops have stopped representing any interest. If anything they made me think 'bleah'....But it just shows that hunger and cravings can hit at any time and for no apparent reason. And I need to stay aware and on top of these things. And I think this is the key thing about changing my own behaviours when interacting with food. If I said no - I can feel confident in myself to keep to 'no' and I can indeed trust myself a bit more than I am.
I looked into M Mosley's 800cal/8wk plan and the specifics of the Cambridge steps. I have slightly combined approaches to design (in first draft
) a plan for when I reach my healthy BMI to help me carry on with Exante/healthy food until I reach goal + 3more kg for the expected bounce back. Once I start reintroducing food I would like to take it in steps until I reach a maintenance daily calorie intake of 1500. But it will take baby steps. I'll speak more about this when the time comes and if I end up deserving it (whatever works as a reward, isn't that right?). I'll think about it in more detail now and again to ensure it's a personalised plan I can maintain.It is going to be a treat going through the food reintroducing process, a process which I really want to enjoy after a long time of knowing that I've stuck to this first step.
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Alecto_on_LCD
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About yesterday: i rounded the day up with a good TS day, 14k steps and 4l water.
I went out with a friend ans my partner. It was nice and didnt find it difficult to have a good time without alcohol. Food was a bit..good looking around us (some food fest was going on) but was okay to control any curiosity. Then another friend of ours came about and gave us free VIP tickets to an outdoor orchestra event. I was still on my keto high and the guys wanted to go so...yeah. We went. The event was lovely, but they threw away my dr peppers and bottle of water i keep on me at all times with just little glasses of water available apart from super expensive 500ml bottles. I thought i wouldnt die for a couple of hours.
Within 1 hour, my back, my tummy, and my calf muscles went unbearably painful. Storm started so we couldnt go anywhere. Tried to ignore it and just enjoy the nice music. The food vans around occupied my entire mind. I became desperate for some water so i just went to buy a bottle on my card - no card payments under 5quid. The lady at the tent understood i was quite desperate so tried to put it through. Card machine didnt work. She was soooo extremely nice - she let me have that bottle for free. Bless her, little angel!
I became exhausted and dizzy even despite the water and in even more pain. I bit into my feeling ashamed about messing up people's fun and said i wanted to go home asap.
Journey to the bus stop felt like an eternity and there were no upcoming buses. Called an uber and got home safe. I not only managed the situation but kept away from the stuff i didnt want. Despite feeling exhausted and hungry i thought: how will i feel tomorrow if i have some food from any of these vans? Disappointed in myself and just crap. I took that thought and feelings and stayed with them until we got home. Good Strategy!
On another note - obviously all the people there had drinks, cocktails, beers etc in their hands and were really boozed up. The smell pf alcohol when passing them didnt trigger any cravings, on the contrary - it felt disgusting. I'm finding it hard to kiss my partner when he's had alcohol because i can no longer stand the smell...so weird!! But. At least that means i am breaking this association and I couldn't be happier about that.
Got home and went straight to bed. Still feel this morning as if I personally drunk all night long but I'm taking it super easy today.
I went out with a friend ans my partner. It was nice and didnt find it difficult to have a good time without alcohol. Food was a bit..good looking around us (some food fest was going on) but was okay to control any curiosity. Then another friend of ours came about and gave us free VIP tickets to an outdoor orchestra event. I was still on my keto high and the guys wanted to go so...yeah. We went. The event was lovely, but they threw away my dr peppers and bottle of water i keep on me at all times with just little glasses of water available apart from super expensive 500ml bottles. I thought i wouldnt die for a couple of hours.
Within 1 hour, my back, my tummy, and my calf muscles went unbearably painful. Storm started so we couldnt go anywhere. Tried to ignore it and just enjoy the nice music. The food vans around occupied my entire mind. I became desperate for some water so i just went to buy a bottle on my card - no card payments under 5quid. The lady at the tent understood i was quite desperate so tried to put it through. Card machine didnt work. She was soooo extremely nice - she let me have that bottle for free. Bless her, little angel!
I became exhausted and dizzy even despite the water and in even more pain. I bit into my feeling ashamed about messing up people's fun and said i wanted to go home asap.
Journey to the bus stop felt like an eternity and there were no upcoming buses. Called an uber and got home safe. I not only managed the situation but kept away from the stuff i didnt want. Despite feeling exhausted and hungry i thought: how will i feel tomorrow if i have some food from any of these vans? Disappointed in myself and just crap. I took that thought and feelings and stayed with them until we got home. Good Strategy!
On another note - obviously all the people there had drinks, cocktails, beers etc in their hands and were really boozed up. The smell pf alcohol when passing them didnt trigger any cravings, on the contrary - it felt disgusting. I'm finding it hard to kiss my partner when he's had alcohol because i can no longer stand the smell...so weird!! But. At least that means i am breaking this association and I couldn't be happier about that.
Got home and went straight to bed. Still feel this morning as if I personally drunk all night long but I'm taking it super easy today.
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Alecto_on_LCD
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Day 34. 69.5kg. 200grams lower.
Getting to the 69 on the dot where i want to be. Every gram counts.
Good day yall!
Getting to the 69 on the dot where i want to be. Every gram counts.
Good day yall!
Alecto_on_LCD
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I redownloaded MyFitnessPal to help me amend my own favourite recipes to low carb versions for the upcoming food week. I've 3 meals planned thus far. I decided that whenever I start dreaming of something from the past I build a new recipe out of it. It's fun!
I saw that I had a lot of weight data stored in there. So I had lost those initial 15kg and the first time I started calorie cou!nting and weight monitoring again was in July 2015, at 59kg, when I became scared that I was starting go gain weight again. Before then i had managed to maintain for 3 years....i remember those months too well unfortunately... I was trying to eat well, cycling every day and was trying to get back to running (could only still do 5-7k, the 10ks had already gone). In July 2015 i was 2 months away from my work contract coming to an end and was getting negative responses from all the job interviews I was going to around the whole country, east-west, north-south. Many places didnt cover my travel expenses so I was depleting my savings that were aimed at helping me out while between contracts. My boyfriend at the time broke up with me in September but those 2 months leading up to it were terrible and was mostly sitting alone crying. I remember having a 3 week spell of just crying continuously until I was put on antidepressants... My family would call now and again to be amazed as to why Im not getting jobs and, I quote: 'obviously they dont like you (the interview panels)'.
I can see i still managed to maintain until November 2015 (i was probably too busy crying, trying to keep on top of the job, and trying to carry on with studying for interviews and holding up during them to care about food!) when I started my new 18m contract that involved commuting for the first month and a half. Thats when I got to 64kg and then literally it's spikes or goes up-down as I was trying to get back into running/eating well while crap was still happening. Can see Id maintain or go down 1kg for a few months and then spike up 4kgs immediately.
I am so happy that chapter of my life is over and I can finally take care of my health. Those 3 years were horrible
Pic of myself before the crap started. I will get back there and I will fit in that skirt again! Goals!
I saw that I had a lot of weight data stored in there. So I had lost those initial 15kg and the first time I started calorie cou!nting and weight monitoring again was in July 2015, at 59kg, when I became scared that I was starting go gain weight again. Before then i had managed to maintain for 3 years....i remember those months too well unfortunately... I was trying to eat well, cycling every day and was trying to get back to running (could only still do 5-7k, the 10ks had already gone). In July 2015 i was 2 months away from my work contract coming to an end and was getting negative responses from all the job interviews I was going to around the whole country, east-west, north-south. Many places didnt cover my travel expenses so I was depleting my savings that were aimed at helping me out while between contracts. My boyfriend at the time broke up with me in September but those 2 months leading up to it were terrible and was mostly sitting alone crying. I remember having a 3 week spell of just crying continuously until I was put on antidepressants... My family would call now and again to be amazed as to why Im not getting jobs and, I quote: 'obviously they dont like you (the interview panels)'.
I can see i still managed to maintain until November 2015 (i was probably too busy crying, trying to keep on top of the job, and trying to carry on with studying for interviews and holding up during them to care about food!) when I started my new 18m contract that involved commuting for the first month and a half. Thats when I got to 64kg and then literally it's spikes or goes up-down as I was trying to get back into running/eating well while crap was still happening. Can see Id maintain or go down 1kg for a few months and then spike up 4kgs immediately.
I am so happy that chapter of my life is over and I can finally take care of my health. Those 3 years were horrible
Pic of myself before the crap started. I will get back there and I will fit in that skirt again! Goals!
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RareKiwi27
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Sounds bloody awful! Well done for surviving x
