i do not mind you joining in piglet, i too was very surprised at the lose, if you have read through the thread you will see that i only joined sw as i had ground to a halt calorie counting, sabina i weigh in on a tuesday, which i will find hard as i was weighing myself on a saturday and then letting myself enjoy the rest of the day, wine etc, but now that it is mid week i can not let that happen. 1 glass of wine last saturday, i even measured out it out.