Hi i`m back again lol

[Karen]

roch, whatever feels like the right thing to do IS the right thing for you to do. its fab cos u have options open to you that werent a while back.

im sure getting a bit of weight off before the op wll be easier to do because u have the op as an incentive good on ya! U can do this. xxxx

 

[Happe]

I have to agree with Coley here Roch. I completely understand your fear but you need this op NOW. You know youve struggled to stick to any plan long enough to lose 3-4 stone recently and although you may have the added incentive of the op in front of you i honestly think you are still going to struggle. I think you have to bite the bullet and have the op asap.

 

[htpink]

Have to say i agree Roch - your surgeon knows the risks involved and if it was too risky wouldn't have booked you in on the 18th - maybe just try to lose as much as you can between now and then but i would def not put it off any longer - take care

 

[pandora]

you are in no way taking backward steps, just forward ones in different directions !
for what my opinion is worth knowing how you have been over the last few months, i tend to agree with the others saying go ahead now.
you have just under a month 'till the 18 may & if you do the diet plan they give you then a stone could be gone by then, JUST STICK TO IT !!
good luck
xx

 

[kittykat]

Roch i would try and lose as much as poss before the op still just under 1 month to go but at the end of the day the dicisions yours good luck xxxxxx

btw thought op was 8th may ?????

 

[Roch]

Well unfortunately i have cancelled the provisional date and have to go with what i feel is the right decision.
Just went and got myself weighed on a proper weight
watchers scale and i have not gained any weight in the last 5 weeks i thought i was as much as 29 stone but i am wrong i am 27.10 so am pleased about that.

I am going to go ahead with my plans to see if i can get funding through the nhs this will take between 6/8 weeks and if i am not approved then i will have my op within a week or 2 of having the decision, and maybe i can save my uncle forking out 9 grand.

I am following the liver shrinkage diet as of now so i am ready for surgery 100% and this will also help me lose weight as well.

I understand that alot of people here on Mm worry about me and i have had a hard time recently but i have to do what i feel is right for me and i feel that i am making the right decision for a few reasons not just the financial reason.

Thanks for all your support xx

 

[Coley]

Ok then Roch. It's your life. Don't waste this time though.

Careful with your liver shrinkage....sounds like atkins to me.....you know how you are with blood sugars.

I really do think you should phone up and see if you can get that provisional date back though.

6/8 weeks is an awful long time.

 

[sonkie]

Hmmm if that is what you want to do then so be it.....at the end of the day it is your body and your life.....We will be here for you whatever you decide....!
Take care hun, after all it is a huge decision.

 

[MissPiggyFi]

Hiya roch,

I'm sure you know all of this as the wls site will have many people like you considering all of their options, but have you thought about having the op in another country? (if the nhs say no that is)

My fiance's mum had a full DS in belgium by an excellent surgeon and it was only £6,000. and a gastric band is around £3,000 there. (i'm not sure about rny though) She couldn't have been more happy, and her daughter went to the same place and also had a ds- taking her in 2 years from a size 36 to a 12... and still shrinking!!! Now they all have BUPA rather than use the nhs, so their standards aren't low by any means, and they think the care and facilities in belgium are great.

Just thought I'd chip in and give you another idea to ponder! x

 

[bondgirl]

Hi Roch love

I've just caught up with your thread and firstly let me just say what a very brave choice it is to have this type of surgery(and I'm not saying this because I have had it done....just what I believe).

I think going down the nhs route is a good idea....I know if it were me and a family member of mine had offered to pay I'd still have gone down this route....but thats just me....the worst they can say is no and due to all your medical problems I think it is unlikely.

I wish you all the best and you are right you need to do what is best for you.....on another note do not carry on with the liver shrinkage diet for longer than the hospital recommends...I was strictly told if my op was put back I must stop the diet and start again within the recommended time.....listen to them they know what they are doing.

Hope to hear your feeling better soon

Love

 

[Happe]

Zoe, how long did it take for you to request funding, get an answer then finally have your surgery? Just thinking Roch that looking at other nhs waiting lists you could still be waiting in 6-12 months time. Too long, so much more damage could be done by then.

 

[sonkie]

Zoe, how long did it take for you to request funding, get an answer then finally have your surgery? Just thinking Roch that looking at other nhs waiting lists you could still be waiting in 6-12 months time. Too long, so much more damage could be done by then.

Aaah thats a thought, it may take some time. In the time it takes you could have had the surgery and be well on the way to slimdom by then.

 

[FatFairNForty(ish)]

Hi Roch hon

Just catching up on things. You know I am brutally honest, so this will be no exception. Hold tight, it may not be comfy!

If you do not lose weight you will die. No ifs or buts. You will. Whether that's on an operating table or in your living room or on a stairwell, or driving Aaron around in your car. It will happen. Trust me.

For what it's worth, I can totally understand all your worries and the awful internal turmoil that is playing through your head. I am so glad the anti-depressants are helping. So so glad.


We DO care, very deeply. Hence all these lovely people taking time to share their concerns and confusions.

I really feel you are stalling now. It isn't a step backwards. It's something that we (super-morbidly-obese) people do. There is this fear of the unknown, a fear of death, a fear of life. There is a comfort in being so overweight, fat can be a comfort blanket, a shield from the arrows of the world, a barrier, a reason for all our problems, an identity, familiar, comforting. Yet it can be our fatal enemy. It can destroy our confidence, self-esteem, it can prevent our bodies from supporting our living, it kills, it's a deceptive evil thief of joy and life.

Stop wearing your comfort blanket sweetheart, time to take the plunge and seriously do it, you may be running out of options. It breaks my heart that someone so lovely might end up in a wooden casket and leave this world devoid of a special person and for what? Fat. Senseless.

You need to do this and stop fannying around. Stick to one plan, do it, lose it, even if it is just the initial 3 stone - that, if you stick to a diet, will be gone in under 2 months, we both know this. In a week you can lose a stone. It ain't hard. Get that date back, try and get funding by all means, but do it in parallel, stop delaying, please, we get one crack at this life darling girl. One. No second chances. We've talked. You know I care. Do this, for you, not anyone else. YOU. YOU DESERVE TO LIVE!


You must do whatever you must do. BUT, be very certain, it is up to you.

It doesn't matter a toss what any of us think or say, at the end of the day, the decision and 100% responsibility is yours.

I for one hope that you live to celebrate your decision and look forward to a glorious life filled with energy and positivity and painlessness. That's my wish for you.

Lots of love xxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[natayou]

I haven't posted yet Roch as I dont know what to say, I cant understand why you wont just do this, you are in desperate need of this surgery and nhs waiting lists are months if not years long, my own father who is seriously ill through his obesity, with heart disease, lung disease and multiple dvt's has been waiting 2 years already and he is a high priority
Your life and quality of life is priceless,
Jennie is talking alot of sense
nat xxx

 

[Barb]

Could I put it any better than Jenny? No - she has said it all and said it well. Listen up Roch, she speaks from the heart and you can hear the fear in her words - fear for you. I feel like we are all teetering on a precipice with you Roch, you finally get the chance for the surgery you long for and you promptly cancel/delay it. Get on that phone and re-organise it. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love, Barb xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Coley]

Roch...I know you are reading this. You were active on here 8 minutes ago. Don't hide.....sort something out.

I bet you that date is still available - since it is being done privately.

Come on, get on the phone!

 

[Janey]

We are all behind you on this one Roch. We all want the best for you and the operation is a great opportunity!!

 

[Roch]

Ok then Roch. It's your life. Don't waste this time though.

Careful with your liver shrinkage....sounds like atkins to me.....you know how you are with blood sugars.

I really do think you should phone up and see if you can get that provisional date back though.

6/8 weeks is an awful long time.

Hmmm if that is what you want to do then so be it.....at the end of the day it is your body and your life.....We will be here for you whatever you decide....!
Take care hun, after all it is a huge decision.

Hiya roch,

I'm sure you know all of this as the wls site will have many people like you considering all of their options, but have you thought about having the op in another country? (if the nhs say no that is)

My fiance's mum had a full DS in belgium by an excellent surgeon and it was only £6,000. and a gastric band is around £3,000 there. (i'm not sure about rny though) She couldn't have been more happy, and her daughter went to the same place and also had a ds- taking her in 2 years from a size 36 to a 12... and still shrinking!!! Now they all have BUPA rather than use the nhs, so their standards aren't low by any means, and they think the care and facilities in belgium are great.

Just thought I'd chip in and give you another idea to ponder! x

Hi Roch love

I've just caught up with your thread and firstly let me just say what a very brave choice it is to have this type of surgery(and I'm not saying this because I have had it done....just what I believe).

I think going down the nhs route is a good idea....I know if it were me and a family member of mine had offered to pay I'd still have gone down this route....but thats just me....the worst they can say is no and due to all your medical problems I think it is unlikely.

I wish you all the best and you are right you need to do what is best for you.....on another note do not carry on with the liver shrinkage diet for longer than the hospital recommends...I was strictly told if my op was put back I must stop the diet and start again within the recommended time.....listen to them they know what they are doing.

Hope to hear your feeling better soon

Love

Zoe, how long did it take for you to request funding, get an answer then finally have your surgery? Just thinking Roch that looking at other nhs waiting lists you could still be waiting in 6-12 months time. Too long, so much more damage could be done by then.

Aaah thats a thought, it may take some time. In the time it takes you could have had the surgery and be well on the way to slimdom by then.

Hi Roch hon

Just catching up on things. You know I am brutally honest, so this will be no exception. Hold tight, it may not be comfy!

If you do not lose weight you will die. No ifs or buts. You will. Whether that's on an operating table or in your living room or on a stairwell, or driving Aaron around in your car. It will happen. Trust me.

For what it's worth, I can totally understand all your worries and the awful internal turmoil that is playing through your head. I am so glad the anti-depressants are helping. So so glad.


We DO care, very deeply. Hence all these lovely people taking time to share their concerns and confusions.

I really feel you are stalling now. It isn't a step backwards. It's something that we (super-morbidly-obese) people do. There is this fear of the unknown, a fear of death, a fear of life. There is a comfort in being so overweight, fat can be a comfort blanket, a shield from the arrows of the world, a barrier, a reason for all our problems, an identity, familiar, comforting. Yet it can be our fatal enemy. It can destroy our confidence, self-esteem, it can prevent our bodies from supporting our living, it kills, it's a deceptive evil thief of joy and life.

Stop wearing your comfort blanket sweetheart, time to take the plunge and seriously do it, you may be running out of options. It breaks my heart that someone so lovely might end up in a wooden casket and leave this world devoid of a special person and for what? Fat. Senseless.

You need to do this and stop fannying around. Stick to one plan, do it, lose it, even if it is just the initial 3 stone - that, if you stick to a diet, will be gone in under 2 months, we both know this. In a week you can lose a stone. It ain't hard. Get that date back, try and get funding by all means, but do it in parallel, stop delaying, please, we get one crack at this life darling girl. One. No second chances. We've talked. You know I care. Do this, for you, not anyone else. YOU. YOU DESERVE TO LIVE!


You must do whatever you must do. BUT, be very certain, it is up to you.

It doesn't matter a toss what any of us think or say, at the end of the day, the decision and 100% responsibility is yours.

I for one hope that you live to celebrate your decision and look forward to a glorious life filled with energy and positivity and painlessness. That's my wish for you.

Lots of love xxxxxxxxxxxxx

I haven't posted yet Roch as I dont know what to say, I cant understand why you wont just do this, you are in desperate need of this surgery and nhs waiting lists are months if not years long, my own father who is seriously ill through his obesity, with heart disease, lung disease and multiple dvt's has been waiting 2 years already and he is a high priority
Your life and quality of life is priceless,
Jennie is talking alot of sense
nat xxx

Could I put it any better than Jenny? No - she has said it all and said it well. Listen up Roch, she speaks from the heart and you can hear the fear in her words - fear for you. I feel like we are all teetering on a precipice with you Roch, you finally get the chance for the surgery you long for and you promptly cancel/delay it. Get on that phone and re-organise it. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love, Barb xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Roch...I know you are reading this. You were active on here 8 minutes ago. Don't hide.....sort something out.

I bet you that date is still available - since it is being done privately.

Come on, get on the phone!

We are all behind you on this one Roch. We all want the best for you and the operation is a great opportunity!!

Ok i know that all your posts are because my health is deteriating and has been for some time and this op is a lifeline for me and u r all only posting because u r worried, but at the moment i am not changing my mind and rebooking my date yet.
I have decided i am not going down the nhs route and i have discussed this with my uncle and the offer of him paying for my surgery is obviously is something i can take up at any time.

I have alot to think about and i am in a bad way with my health at the moment with an chest infection and chronic sciatica and although i am on anti d tabs the last few days has been a roller coaster of emotions and i need to take some time out to sort my feelings out.
I am sure another few more weeks wont kill me either way.

I do appreciate all your care and concern and support but this is major surgery for anyone especially for someone who weighs as much as me.
Thanks and take care xxx

 

[Coley]

So now you are doing what Roch???

Nothing??

 

[bondgirl]

Zoe, how long did it take for you to request funding, get an answer then finally have your surgery? Just thinking Roch that looking at other nhs waiting lists you could still be waiting in 6-12 months time. Too long, so much more damage could be done by then.

Hi Happe sorry I didn't see your post before.

I first saw my surgeon in September then in December had my pre op test done in Jan and had surgery early March....I was very quick due to health concernes but we didn't have to barter with the local PCT infact as soon as Surgeon agreed to do it he told me not to worry all was in hand.