IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, try try try again and again (and again...)

[dukandebut]

Mine are definitely stress and worrying about people, but also boredom. It's just too easy to absentmindedly pick at some chocolate - and, before, you know it, a whole box has somehow disappeared. I need to put some physical distance between me and temptation, ie chocolate.

 

[dukandebut]

Conso (and I am planning to do proper dukan conso when I eventually get there) is anxiety inducing, I'm not so worried about the fruit and cheese, and drool at all thoughts of gala but adding a bread and the carb meal, having them back in the house........

If it's any comfort, jaqys and Mouse, I've found that I'm still over my former carb addiction. Even after adding them in during Conso, I don't feel that I actually need them anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a bit of pasta or starchy veg still, but I don't miss it all that much during normal PV days.

Me and carbs - we're back to being casual acquaintances and are no longer bosom buddies. It's a great feeling.

(I just wish I could do the same for bl**dy chocolate! :cry

 

[Maintainer]

Jo did you always know what your triggers were?.

No definitely not and, even now, I'm guessing that it's carbs and sugars which set me off on one. Emotional eating I still do - even on Dukan - but "fortunately" find that it doesn't seem to affect my weight unduly. Emotional overeating on Dukan is bad for one's psyche though, so I must look into that again at some point. For now though, I'm favouring the weight aspect over the behavioural aspect (having tried and failed throughout 2010 when attempting the reverse!).

Mouse - One thing I do recommend, for carb addicts like us, is to eat them in company always. "Slim", I can eat cake with people... "Fat", I couldn't.

With my previous self invented diet thingy (2002-2003), I made a point of cutting out snacks (which I've promptly reinserted with Dukan!). I also ensured food was eaten sitting down, on a plate, with a knife and fork (and for those of you with good imaginations, yes I made myself do it with a bar of Cadbury's Milk once... very awkward too!!!)

Conso, as a plan, is a great idea... but for those of us with eating disorders, Dukan has not fixed them. In fact, for me, he has fed mine. I have now learned how to keep my weight stableish AND overeat. <grrr!>

On the French official site, in my day, with a BMI of under 25, the computer said "NO". I don't know if that is still the case. Seeing someone here with 21.5 being encouraged by another new person is upsetting. I won't advise those people and always glance at people's stats before advising.


Lovely to see you all in here!

 

[LVLLM]

(and for those of you with good imaginations, yes I made myself do it with a bar of Cadbury's Milk once... very awkward too!!!)

I love that idea Jo!
I found when doing ww i didnt snack it was 3 meals a day and nothing else. whereas im too snacking on atkins...have also got a chewing gum addiction at the moment!

My triggers are stress, boredom and hangovers! BUT it can go one way or the other, I can ether overeat or undereat! It depends. I suppose if im happy i eat a lot too LOL.

 

[robinhood]

Eating chocolate with a fork and knife is great fun - we do it for the kids' birthday parties (also involves dice, hat, scarf,gloves and lots of screaming).

Healthy-ish pizza is doable - we only have home-made and for one kilo of flour (1.5 kilos of dough) we can get about 20 pizzas (some child-sized) so it's not *that* carb-heavy if you have a smaller one - also because they are been eaten straight away, I don't put oil in that dough. I have 'want to be thin day' ones (tomato base, anchovies - oil wiped off - with capers and a sprinkling of cheese) and 'don't mind being fat day' ones (6 cheese pizza, for ex). I do count both as galas, but would probably have a bit more wine/beer with the healthier choice.

My excesses were always stress/hormone induced and always chocolate/cheese in huge quantities. Not fussed on chocolate now, even in times of stress or TOTM and cheese is well under control.

We've all come a long way, well done us.

 

[anjuschka]

On the French official site, in my day, with a BMI of under 25, the computer said "NO". I don't know if that is still the case. Seeing someone here with 21.5 being encouraged by another new person is upsetting. I won't advise those people and always glance at people's stats before advising.

Right, I just experimented: this is what I got: giving my natural stats (heavy bone struc) and relatively honest answers (=bmi 22.1) plus desired target weight of 60kg gave this:

This is your True Weight - Congratulations!

If the information that you have given is correct, your true weight is 64 kg, and you do not need any slimming coaching. Your weight is right for you.
Would you like however to sign-up so that you can benefit from other services other than the diet plan?
There are many people using the tools and services available (Recipes, Online chat with Dr Pierre Dukan, Virtual slimming apartment, video exercises, forums... or just to get help whilst consolidating and stabilizing you weight that you may already have lost.

However, revising my details a bit (current weight 65, bmi 22.5), with a light bone structure I got:

My personalized slimming programme

Any, Your 11 answers allow me to give you 3 pieces of personal information.
Is the weight you wish to be your True Weight?

Your True weight is 62.1 kg. This is above the weight that you wanted, but it is a good weight, a weight that you can easily achieve and maintain. Have confidence in me about this.
If you want to calculate again your True Weight click here

By starting today you will weigh 62.1 kg on the 11/06/2011.

You'll have to follow 3 phases of my method, this means a 52 day programme to permanently stabilize your new weight.

Coached at the bargain price of ~30£

And even better - I left the details in (it keeps reverting back to imperial so I'm finding it hard to edit!) but change to heavy bone structure and he still said yes!!

Any,
Your 11 answers allow me to give you 3 pieces of personal information.
Is the weight you wish to be your True Weight?

Your True weight is 10 st. This is above the weight that you wanted, but it is a good weight, a weight that you can easily achieve and maintain. Have confidence in me about this.
If you want to calculate again your True Weight click here

By starting today you will weigh 10 st on the 01/06/2011.

You'll have to follow 3 phases of my method, this means a 28 day programme to permanently stabilize your new weight.

That translates as 2lb in 3-day attack, 1lb in 10-day cruise!! then 15 days conso. To get from 10st3 to 10st!!

But revising my current weight right down to 58kg (ha ha) or so giving me a BMI of just over 20 came back with the 'congratulations this is your true weight'

So they do draw a line *somewhere*

 

[jaqys]

Eating chocolate with a fork and knife is great fun - we do it for the kids' birthday parties (also involves dice, hat, scarf,gloves and lots of screaming).

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We used to do that at brownies I was thin then

Interesting Anja, imagine that signing up to lose 3lbs then going through the weight varience in conso/stab

 

[LVLLM]

we used to do it at brownies too. was usually a mars bar though x

 

[Maintainer]

Anja - that research of yours heartens me. Credit to the Dukan site for having some principles because I do also remember having to click on a disclaimer on the French site, when signing up for coaching, that I did not have an eating disorder and had never had one (ok I lied).

I'd be surprised if many of our slim new people hang around for long.

 

[Maintainer]

My lovely mackeral fillets (from Iceland) did me no favours again last night and +500g on the scales again this morning - just like last Thursday! Never mind!

Lovely weather here again, so I was sorry to see that it's going to be much chillier in England for my weekend... Busy evening tonight preparing food (etc). Tomorrow night, OH meets me in the car from work and we zoom up to Calais

 

[m-mouse]

We used to do that at brownies I was thin then

Interesting Anja, imagine that signing up to lose 3lbs then going through the weight varience in conso/stab

We used to do it at Brownies too - but I wasn't thin then

 

[Maintainer]

I wasn't a Brownie...

 

[m-mouse]

Mmmm brownies (yum)

 

[Maintainer]

not my cup of tea

 

[m-mouse]

Ooh they are mine and I have spent a lot of time trying to work out how I could make a dukan friendly brownie!!!! Atkins I think I could do as I have a recipe for one with ground almonds instead of flour.

 

[Maintainer]

But Atkins days are only ok if we're losing weight well... (says she wondering now how to fit in an Atkins breakfast while in the UK - thank you VERY much!!!!)

oooh btw - you kindly offered to bring me some Quark - please don't trouble yourself because my sister has found me some. Will save both of us carrying it around!!

 

[LVLLM]

Im not fussed on brownies either. And i was a fat brownie

 

[m-mouse]

I know - I'm only day dreaming - and the trouble is it wouldn't be worth the effort of making it if you could only have a little bit!! I will save the dream for when I am on conso (current est Xmas 2012

 

[Maintainer]

Hello gorgeous Vicky - LOVING your hair

Can I please see a picture of a FAT Vicky Brownie? PRETTY PLEASE?

No way Mouse - I shall be discussing that with you over a cup of black coffee on Saturday

 

[m-mouse]

Im not fussed on brownies either. And i was a fat brownie

Did you struggle with the belt, (I did) or did you wear the funkier gear because you are so much younger?

I was an elf, what were you?