Derbynanny
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Can I come and live with you ? Your meals sound divine 
Moonwatcher's JUDDD diary
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Atomic pink
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Mmmmm. That's three courses I could definitely get on board with. What time do you want me round??
Hope you thoroughly enjoy it.
Hope you thoroughly enjoy it.
Lanarkwitch
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Lol yu,,. sounds fab, I will admit to having had a bit of a chocolate fest myself!! Sorry the scales weren't playing ball for March I've had a bad month too, but onwards and downwards I say!
ladybird777
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I seem to have slowed right down loss wise too. Too much laying around being ill in my case. Your meal sounds yummy.
moonwatcher
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You'd all be welcome, although I suspect you would have to fight the OH for the cherry custard tart!
Lanarkwitch - yep there's still 9 months of the year left!
Ladybird - I reckon you have done well to even be thinking about dieting when you have been suffering from pneumonia!
Atomic - I missed the bit about the campervan. Well there has been a lot of planning (and spending!) so far. We have agreed on a layout, have purchased two new tyres, taxed it (it was taxed, but as a disabled minibus, which is free but only when you are using it for that purpose, so we had to retax it as a normal vehicle,) bought an angle grinder to take out the minibus seats (done), an orbital sander to work on the exterior, a futon style mattress for the bed, most of the wood for the bed base (that was free, from 'Freegle'), a CD player and speakers, around £200 quids-worth of stuff for the exterior paintwork and the OH is ebaying for a three quarter corner shower tray as we speak!
We already had a chemical loo, two gas ring thingies and a mini fridge, so we are collecting the stuff we need gradually, but none of it is actually in place yet. I suspect for a while it will be more a 'festival style' van than a 'membership of the Caravan Club van', whose patron is HRH Prince of Wales, 'don't you know!?' They are rather more fussy about who they take on for membership, but that's OK, as we would rather not go to a site where there is an 'acceptable' or 'non-acceptable type.'
Lanarkwitch - yep there's still 9 months of the year left!
Ladybird - I reckon you have done well to even be thinking about dieting when you have been suffering from pneumonia!
Atomic - I missed the bit about the campervan. Well there has been a lot of planning (and spending!) so far. We have agreed on a layout, have purchased two new tyres, taxed it (it was taxed, but as a disabled minibus, which is free but only when you are using it for that purpose, so we had to retax it as a normal vehicle,) bought an angle grinder to take out the minibus seats (done), an orbital sander to work on the exterior, a futon style mattress for the bed, most of the wood for the bed base (that was free, from 'Freegle'), a CD player and speakers, around £200 quids-worth of stuff for the exterior paintwork and the OH is ebaying for a three quarter corner shower tray as we speak!
We already had a chemical loo, two gas ring thingies and a mini fridge, so we are collecting the stuff we need gradually, but none of it is actually in place yet. I suspect for a while it will be more a 'festival style' van than a 'membership of the Caravan Club van', whose patron is HRH Prince of Wales, 'don't you know!?' They are rather more fussy about who they take on for membership, but that's OK, as we would rather not go to a site where there is an 'acceptable' or 'non-acceptable type.'
Atomic pink
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Acceptable and non-acceptable type? My word the world of campervan-ing is rather more complicated than I would have ever have imagined!
Your OH can keep the cherry tart if I can have his halloumi
Your OH can keep the cherry tart if I can have his halloumi
moonwatcher
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We didn't have the starter in the end - realised my planning was a lot bigger than my stomach! Everything else was absolutely wonderful though and we can enjoy the halloumi another day. Can't see the OH ever giving it up!
Oh yes, the Caravan Club are rather selective. They refused us membership a few years ago because apparently the make and model of the caravan we had at the time didn't meet their high requirements. I never bothered to apply again! Also some camp sites won't accept converted vans, even if the owner has legally changed the class of the van with the DVLA and has the documents to prove it. If you want to change the class to a campervan/motor caravan you have to meet a whole load of criterium for sizes and layout of stuff, but that isn't good enough for some. I'd rather go somewhere else anyway!
Oh yes, the Caravan Club are rather selective. They refused us membership a few years ago because apparently the make and model of the caravan we had at the time didn't meet their high requirements. I never bothered to apply again! Also some camp sites won't accept converted vans, even if the owner has legally changed the class of the van with the DVLA and has the documents to prove it. If you want to change the class to a campervan/motor caravan you have to meet a whole load of criterium for sizes and layout of stuff, but that isn't good enough for some. I'd rather go somewhere else anyway!
moonwatcher
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Today was sort of going to be a DD, but then it seemed we had to go to Suffolk to collect these speakers, so I had a couple of cranberry and white choc cookies and a large coffee and cream for breakfast, thinking we would get a pub lunch whilst out, and tomorrow could be a DD instead. Now it turns out that the bloke hasn't given us his address yet, so we are waiting on an email to see if we are going today or not. Cross, because if we end up going tomorrow instead today could have been my DD and I could have enjoyed nibbles out tomorrow. Kind of in limbo at the moment...
Atomic pink
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Ah, I hate it when you are left hanging with your food plans like that. Its really rubbish Cookies and coffee with cream probably isn't an awful way to start the day though is it My day began with rootling about at the bottom our our fish tank to try and connect air bubble pipes. While being gently nuzzled and mouthed at by our large catfish. All before breakfast.
I completely agree - if a site is that fussy then I would also prefer to stay somewhere else. It really gets on my nerve when there are apparently pointless rules in place that only seem designed to needlessly exclude people. Its such an odd mentality to me.
Hope you have a pleasant rest of day whichever way your plans go.
Cookies and coffee with cream probably isn't an awful way to start the day though is it My day began with rootling about at the bottom our our fish tank to try and connect air bubble pipes. While being gently nuzzled and mouthed at by our large catfish. All before breakfast.I completely agree - if a site is that fussy then I would also prefer to stay somewhere else. It really gets on my nerve when there are apparently pointless rules in place that only seem designed to needlessly exclude people. Its such an odd mentality to me.
Hope you have a pleasant rest of day whichever way your plans go.
moonwatcher
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Euuuuggghhh! Fish tank fumbling doesn't sound like a very appealing start to a Bank Holiday Monday. Still I suppose it had to be done for the sake of the fish!
Today stayed as an up day. We waited until about two o'clock and still hadn't heard anything so we took a drive out to the coast instead. Had bangers, mash veg and gravy, followed by one and a half ring doughnuts with a hot chocolate sitting on the sea-front in the sun. It was sunny but cold. Fitted in a walk along the prom - around an hour, probably would have done longer but the wind was painfully cold by then. Either a DD or an ID tomorrow. Hoping I will have enough willpower to make it a proper DD, but think it might be tough with the OH at home. Did manage a DD on Friday though, while he ate crisps, chocolate, cakes, beer etc., etc.
Today stayed as an up day. We waited until about two o'clock and still hadn't heard anything so we took a drive out to the coast instead. Had bangers, mash veg and gravy, followed by one and a half ring doughnuts with a hot chocolate sitting on the sea-front in the sun. It was sunny but cold. Fitted in a walk along the prom - around an hour, probably would have done longer but the wind was painfully cold by then. Either a DD or an ID tomorrow. Hoping I will have enough willpower to make it a proper DD, but think it might be tough with the OH at home. Did manage a DD on Friday though, while he ate crisps, chocolate, cakes, beer etc., etc.
Atomic pink
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Sounds like a lovely day yesterday Really wish I lived closer to the coast, I really miss getting to see the sea sometimes being smack bang in the middle of the country.
Doing a down day when at home with OH would be hard They used to be ok when I was at home on my own but really difficult when OH was at home wandering about eating cake and cooking bacon sandwiches. Hope you had an ok day today, whether DD or ID.
Really wish I lived closer to the coast, I really miss getting to see the sea sometimes being smack bang in the middle of the country.Doing a down day when at home with OH would be hard
They used to be ok when I was at home on my own but really difficult when OH was at home wandering about eating cake and cooking bacon sandwiches. Hope you had an ok day today, whether DD or ID.
moonwatcher
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Turned yesterday into an UP day in the end, as we went to Suffolk to collect the speakers. It was another bright sunny day so we stopped at Thornham walks for a stroll in the woods. We had already decided en route to make the day an UP day as we were out for the day, with Wednesday (today) and Friday as DD. That means I missed just my normal Monday DD. Stopped at the cafe there and had gammon egg and chips, although left three quarters of the chips as it was such a massive portion.
So, I was thinking...missed one DD, but not gone too mad over the weekend. Still kept a DD on Good Friday, had one day where I did eat mainly chocolates and goodies, but the other days I stuck mainly to meals, stopped eating when I began to feel I had had enough, did some exercise, yada, yada, yada. I expected to have a bit of a gain after 4 days.Got on the scales this morning and I am up 6 pounds!!! If you count the previous two weeks in that is a gain of 8 pounds in 3 weeks.
Now, I know there are all the counter arguments and reasons - swings after UPs, water weight, salt weight, fluid round sore muscles after exercise, but I am still thoroughly peed off. Past experience shows that it is unlikely it will drop off quickly, I will most probably take two months or more to get those 8 pounds off. I don't get the sudden drops after DDs, just the sudden gains after UPs. I really don't feel I deserve to be up 8 pounds after the last three weeks (not that whether I deserve it or not makes any difference at all). I am well up into the 15s again, after getting to 14.9 before Christmas, just about managed to lose the Christmas gain, and now back here again with the Easter gain! I'm not going to change my stats as it is too dis-heartening. I know there is no alternative other than to keep trying
but I am feeling so low about it.
...and another thing, whilst I am throwing my toys out of the pram, where does this stupid figure of 3500 calories to gain a pound come from? I would have had to have eaten 21,000 calories over my calorie expenditure over the last four days to have gained 6 pounds. It just didn't happen. So many times that particular piece of maths does not add up. Is it one of those 'facts' that has become accepted as a scientific truth?
Oh, and the OH has managed to lose 2 pounds over Easter. Even he can't for the life of him see how.
'Nuff said.
So, I was thinking...missed one DD, but not gone too mad over the weekend. Still kept a DD on Good Friday, had one day where I did eat mainly chocolates and goodies, but the other days I stuck mainly to meals, stopped eating when I began to feel I had had enough, did some exercise, yada, yada, yada. I expected to have a bit of a gain after 4 days.Got on the scales this morning and I am up 6 pounds!!! If you count the previous two weeks in that is a gain of 8 pounds in 3 weeks.
Now, I know there are all the counter arguments and reasons - swings after UPs, water weight, salt weight, fluid round sore muscles after exercise, but I am still thoroughly peed off. Past experience shows that it is unlikely it will drop off quickly, I will most probably take two months or more to get those 8 pounds off. I don't get the sudden drops after DDs, just the sudden gains after UPs. I really don't feel I deserve to be up 8 pounds after the last three weeks (not that whether I deserve it or not makes any difference at all). I am well up into the 15s again, after getting to 14.9 before Christmas, just about managed to lose the Christmas gain, and now back here again with the Easter gain! I'm not going to change my stats as it is too dis-heartening. I know there is no alternative other than to keep trying
but I am feeling so low about it.
...and another thing, whilst I am throwing my toys out of the pram, where does this stupid figure of 3500 calories to gain a pound come from? I would have had to have eaten 21,000 calories over my calorie expenditure over the last four days to have gained 6 pounds. It just didn't happen. So many times that particular piece of maths does not add up. Is it one of those 'facts' that has become accepted as a scientific truth?
Oh, and the OH has managed to lose 2 pounds over Easter. Even he can't for the life of him see how.
'Nuff said.
Derbynanny
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How frustrating :-( I have gained 6 pounds since Saturday as well :-( I am really hoping my dd works to get some of that off .
Atomic pink
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Oh carp! That's really disheartening, fingers crossed it will have come down a fair bit by weigh in.
I'm not sure what to suggest really, you sound like you have been really sensible with your up days on the whole and really disciplined on the down days too. Its not fair at all that things aren't panning out on the scales at the moment. As you said its just a case of not giving up and having faith that you WILL get there.
I'm not sure what to suggest really, you sound like you have been really sensible with your up days on the whole and really disciplined on the down days too. Its not fair at all that things aren't panning out on the scales at the moment. As you said its just a case of not giving up and having faith that you WILL get there.
Lanarkwitch
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I gain weight like that regularly, but I have big water weight swings even when not dieting, just a thought ( as this has happened to me in the past) but have you started eating anything new over the last few weeks or more of anything than normal, I know that sounds odd, but when I was CC I found that if I ate a nutrigrain bar I didn't lose that week, even though I counted the calories, it happened 3 times before I made the connection, whatever was in them I don't know! The other thing they talk about with IF'ing is calorie creep, the thing where in normal life you'd never dream of drinking a full fat latte with extra cream and syrup, but because it's an UP you do ( never happened to me.....not ever ). To me 8lbs in 3 weeks suggests there is something else going on, especially when you are a slow loser, any other symptoms other than weight gain?
). To me 8lbs in 3 weeks suggests there is something else going on, especially when you are a slow loser, any other symptoms other than weight gain?
moonwatcher
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Thanks all. Sorry for the tantrum this morning but I was so gutted by the numbers on the scales. It was so tempting to give up on the DD today. I haven't, and have stuck to my DD calories, but at the moment I can't even drum up enthusiasm to feel good about that. I'm sort of feeling "Yes, so I stuck to my DD today, and... er... so?" I know it sounds stupid, but I have felt on the verge of bursting into tears all day. What is it about dieting that brings out the immature emotions? Sigh.
Lanarkwitch -that is an interesting thought about new or more of a particular food. I can't think of anything that fits the bill offhand. I have been eating more eggs, but generally on DDs and the weeks I have done that seemed to be weeks when I lost. Maybe more eggs are the order of the day. I had frittata tonight, so who knows? Apart from that nothing comes to mind, but I will have a look back through my food records and see if I spot anything.
Lanarkwitch -that is an interesting thought about new or more of a particular food. I can't think of anything that fits the bill offhand. I have been eating more eggs, but generally on DDs and the weeks I have done that seemed to be weeks when I lost. Maybe more eggs are the order of the day. I had frittata tonight, so who knows? Apart from that nothing comes to mind, but I will have a look back through my food records and see if I spot anything.
Derbynanny
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Well done keep sticking with it
Lanarkwitch
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Super well done xx
moonwatcher
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Much happier to report today's scale moment of truth as 15st 1.5lbs, so down 2.5 lbs after my DD yesterday. Perhaps eggs are the answer! l also drank loads of water yesterday. I always drink quite a bit of water, but thought it wouldn't hurt to up that too.
So UP day today but not planning to go too mad, as I have the 14s back in my sights!
Just about to load up the soup pan and the breadmaker and will then update with my planned food for the day.
Thanks for the support yesterday ladies. It was much appreciated. I think that without this forum to rant on, yesterday would have become an UP day, without a doubt.
l also drank loads of water yesterday. I always drink quite a bit of water, but thought it wouldn't hurt to up that too.So UP day today but not planning to go too mad, as I have the 14s back in my sights!
Just about to load up the soup pan and the breadmaker and will then update with my planned food for the day.
Thanks for the support yesterday ladies. It was much appreciated. I think that without this forum to rant on, yesterday would have become an UP day, without a doubt.
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