Susiew2001
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: Brands, Feeding, Nursery, Bathing, Everything!
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: From Conception to Birth, and Beyond!
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I think if baby was breech i would rather have an elective section than risk it all being an emergency.....too many awful things like cord coming down first, head getting stuck etc can happen with breech and then that really is an emergency, so i think i'd just follow their recommendations and have a section.
What do you think you'd do Jess?
PrincessPeach
Pregnant with Baby No 2!
Ok here I am on this one as well! It's nice to be wanted!
Ladies...I'd like to introduce Susie to you
She is a mummy of a 4-month old little girl, and not only that she is a Midwife!! So lots of knowledge here from a career and mummy point of view Me and Frances have been chatting to her on one of the other diaries and managed to drag her to our neck of the woods as we all have lots of questions xxx Welcome Susie
xxI have no idea to be honest. This is why I asked because I've kind of mentally-prepared myself for most scenarios, but when I came across this article about breech babies I suddenly thought "sh*t!" I hadn't taken that into consideration.
I think if there was no way of moving baby (and mine DOES seem to be awkward and does what she wants lol
) then I will too have an elective c-section. xx
Cai
has a thin girl inside!
Susie I need advice!!
Brief outline (sorry for those who have heard it all before)
Stevie born 12th oct with forceps and episiotomy
Stitches Burt an I had v bad infection (hospital for 6 nights)
When my antibiotics ran out I rang labour ward as I thought I still had an infection - the doc who saw me said I didn't and she would re suture me.
The re suturing came away at the top and the bottom
My scan was v v sore
I was given more antibiotics (which run out today)
Last Thursday (9 days after re suture) I was is so much pain rang hospital and the doc who saw me took the stitches out completely. (Worse pain ever!!)
I am still showering About 3 times a day and when I am cleaning stringy yellowy/pink/blood clots are coming away. Small ad think like a fine noodle (tmi I know)
The hospital said I was to ring GP if I wanted to see anyone now (think they are truly fed up of me) and I spoke to my health visitor just now and she thinks it could be part of the general after birth blood loss but might not be! She didn't really get my vote of confidence. Should I ring my GP? Or is this a normal thug? (I'm not wearing pads at all cos any blood loss now is so small the showers are clearing it away!)
Sorry for the long post but I didn't know the blood loss could be a yellow colour which is what they said if was cleaning away when I thought it was infection!! It could b reading this Helps someone else later too!!
Sorry!!!! X
Brief outline (sorry for those who have heard it all before)
Stevie born 12th oct with forceps and episiotomy
Stitches Burt an I had v bad infection (hospital for 6 nights)
When my antibiotics ran out I rang labour ward as I thought I still had an infection - the doc who saw me said I didn't and she would re suture me.
The re suturing came away at the top and the bottom
My scan was v v sore
I was given more antibiotics (which run out today)
Last Thursday (9 days after re suture) I was is so much pain rang hospital and the doc who saw me took the stitches out completely. (Worse pain ever!!)
I am still showering About 3 times a day and when I am cleaning stringy yellowy/pink/blood clots are coming away. Small ad think like a fine noodle (tmi I know)
The hospital said I was to ring GP if I wanted to see anyone now (think they are truly fed up of me) and I spoke to my health visitor just now and she thinks it could be part of the general after birth blood loss but might not be! She didn't really get my vote of confidence. Should I ring my GP? Or is this a normal thug? (I'm not wearing pads at all cos any blood loss now is so small the showers are clearing it away!)
Sorry for the long post but I didn't know the blood loss could be a yellow colour which is what they said if was cleaning away when I thought it was infection!! It could b reading this Helps someone else later too!!
Sorry!!!! X
Dubchick81
Finally Pregnant!!
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Jess I've no idea re the breech thing.. I would assume an elective section would be the best option but I think I'd be happy to go with whatever the MW/Cons suggested...
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sarah_lou1981
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My sister was breach when my mum had her. She came out bum first and it made a real mess of my mum and she was born with click hip, although I don't know if that's connected. I really don't want a c section but I think I'd rather have that than the pain and mess my mum described to me. But then again, like Cai, we could end up with forceps and an episiotomy anyway. I'm just hoping baby stays head down now x
Susiew2001
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: Brands, Feeding, Nursery, Bathing, Everything!
Ooo gosh, lots of questions!
Ok firstly, cai, poor you, what an ordeal! Does the discharge smell yucky? If not it is likely to be the last of the bleeding. Tends to be red, then brown, then creamy/yellow. Can last 6 weeks.
If it does smell then I would get off to the GP.
Also, have you had a look? If it's healing it will be obvious. Might look a little yellowy, but should be healthy pink/red skin around it but shouldn't look angry or inflamed. The yellow is normal, as the new skin grows up from the bottom the yellow comes away.
Lastly, does it hurt?
For the rest re breech, have missed the beginning of the thread I think, what I will say is an honest account of the whys and the wherefores. Might contain little too much info for some but you need to be informed!
Generally drs will ALWAYS say have a cs. They base their advice on a trial done years (like 20+ yrs) ago which said breech vaginal birth was dangerous and cs was safe. However, the research was flawed and the trial wasn't conducted properly. But, the problem is now that no one will get approval for a new trial cos a previous one said it was bad...catch 22. With me so far?
Ok, so being found to be breech antenatally isn't something to be too concerned about. It's once you're 36 weeks we like to double check and plan for birth if baby is the wrong way round. You would have a scan and if baby is breech see a consultant. They would offer you an ECV, basically try to rotate the baby. This carries risks, such as distress to the baby and often doesn't work permanently (have seen them manage it, they step back from the bed and quick as you like baby turns back round again!) it can also be quite painful for mum.
Anyway, they will likely then offer you a cs as this is 'safest'. However, there are risks with that as well. Infection, bleeding, bladder and bowel damage, etc being the most common ones. It is also major surgery and you would be unable to drive for 6 weeks and have to stay in Hosp for at least 2 days. It also increases your chances of having problems with the second baby, scars on the uterus can rupture, you wouldn't be able to routinely go to a birth centre, have a water birth etc, you would be advised to labour on labour ward attached to a monitor.
So, the concerns with having a breech vaginally is that the head gets stuck. If you think about normal birth, head first, body follows. With a breech birth, body first head last. I would like to point out however, that in a cs when the baby is breech, the body still comes out first and the head is last...see where I'm going with this!?! Therefore, the head of a breech baby in a cs can still take a while to be delivered! Most drs will not tell you this bit...
I have seen several breech babies born vaginally and the heads haven't been a problem as there are several things we do to prevent it being an issue such as positions for mum and baby etc.
So, all this advice has probably confused you a bit. I would suggest a wait and see approach if diagnosed antenatally. Babies can turn round overnight, and some women have turned up for a cs for breech to be told baby is head down, go home and wait for labour. Often cs are booked for 38-39 weeks. I would be tempted to ask if you can wait until 41 weeks plus. If baby still hasn't turned and you haven't gone in to labour, then if you wish to by all means have a cs. Gives baby time to sort themselves out!
If you go into labour in the meantime make a decision at the time what you wish to do...some midwives will advocate wait and see, if your body labours properly with no complications to mum and baby then what's wrong with a breech birth...I'm not saying I agree with this, or disagree. It's a personal choice.
If you turned up in labour, baby was undiagnosed breech,were 10cm, baby and you were well and and wanted to push they would deliver you vaginally as you've got that far why interfere!
Hope that all makes sense. Labour and birth is a very personal choice and what I would do would differ from my colleagues and all of you. Basically my advice is don't be railroaded into doing something you don't want or feel happy with. If you have questions, ask them. If you're not happy with the answer, ask to see someone else. And also, if one dr has told you one thing and another something else, ask your midwife!
Ooo gosh, lots of questions!
Ok firstly, cai, poor you, what an ordeal! Does the discharge smell yucky? If not it is likely to be the last of the bleeding. Tends to be red, then brown, then creamy/yellow. Can last 6 weeks.
If it does smell then I would get off to the GP.
Also, have you had a look? If it's healing it will be obvious. Might look a little yellowy, but should be healthy pink/red skin around it but shouldn't look angry or inflamed. The yellow is normal, as the new skin grows up from the bottom the yellow comes away.
Lastly, does it hurt?
For the rest re breech, have missed the beginning of the thread I think, what I will say is an honest account of the whys and the wherefores. Might contain little too much info for some but you need to be informed!
Generally drs will ALWAYS say have a cs. They base their advice on a trial done years (like 20+ yrs) ago which said breech vaginal birth was dangerous and cs was safe. However, the research was flawed and the trial wasn't conducted properly. But, the problem is now that no one will get approval for a new trial cos a previous one said it was bad...catch 22. With me so far?
Ok, so being found to be breech antenatally isn't something to be too concerned about. It's once you're 36 weeks we like to double check and plan for birth if baby is the wrong way round. You would have a scan and if baby is breech see a consultant. They would offer you an ECV, basically try to rotate the baby. This carries risks, such as distress to the baby and often doesn't work permanently (have seen them manage it, they step back from the bed and quick as you like baby turns back round again!) it can also be quite painful for mum.
Anyway, they will likely then offer you a cs as this is 'safest'. However, there are risks with that as well. Infection, bleeding, bladder and bowel damage, etc being the most common ones. It is also major surgery and you would be unable to drive for 6 weeks and have to stay in Hosp for at least 2 days. It also increases your chances of having problems with the second baby, scars on the uterus can rupture, you wouldn't be able to routinely go to a birth centre, have a water birth etc, you would be advised to labour on labour ward attached to a monitor.
So, the concerns with having a breech vaginally is that the head gets stuck. If you think about normal birth, head first, body follows. With a breech birth, body first head last. I would like to point out however, that in a cs when the baby is breech, the body still comes out first and the head is last...see where I'm going with this!?! Therefore, the head of a breech baby in a cs can still take a while to be delivered! Most drs will not tell you this bit...
I have seen several breech babies born vaginally and the heads haven't been a problem as there are several things we do to prevent it being an issue such as positions for mum and baby etc.
So, all this advice has probably confused you a bit. I would suggest a wait and see approach if diagnosed antenatally. Babies can turn round overnight, and some women have turned up for a cs for breech to be told baby is head down, go home and wait for labour. Often cs are booked for 38-39 weeks. I would be tempted to ask if you can wait until 41 weeks plus. If baby still hasn't turned and you haven't gone in to labour, then if you wish to by all means have a cs. Gives baby time to sort themselves out!
If you go into labour in the meantime make a decision at the time what you wish to do...some midwives will advocate wait and see, if your body labours properly with no complications to mum and baby then what's wrong with a breech birth...I'm not saying I agree with this, or disagree. It's a personal choice.
If you turned up in labour, baby was undiagnosed breech,were 10cm, baby and you were well and and wanted to push they would deliver you vaginally as you've got that far why interfere!
Hope that all makes sense. Labour and birth is a very personal choice and what I would do would differ from my colleagues and all of you. Basically my advice is don't be railroaded into doing something you don't want or feel happy with. If you have questions, ask them. If you're not happy with the answer, ask to see someone else. And also, if one dr has told you one thing and another something else, ask your midwife!
Susiew2001
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: Brands, Feeding, Nursery, Bathing, Everything!
Just to finish off the breech thing, if baby is bum down, legs around the head, then a safe vaginal birth is possible. If baby is feet/foot down or knees down, cs is best as cord can come down and get squashed as someone has already said.
Clicky hips can be related to breech birth but not exclusively. It's due to stretching of the ligaments and muscles generally. Often resolves itself. Some babies who were head down can also have it too
Xx
Just to finish off the breech thing, if baby is bum down, legs around the head, then a safe vaginal birth is possible. If baby is feet/foot down or knees down, cs is best as cord can come down and get squashed as someone has already said.
Clicky hips can be related to breech birth but not exclusively. It's due to stretching of the ligaments and muscles generally. Often resolves itself. Some babies who were head down can also have it too
Xx
PrincessPeach
Pregnant with Baby No 2!
Susie you're a star! Lots of very interesting and useful information
Hopefully our babies will be good and well behaved and be head down x but it's good to know what the options are just in case it did happen. Thank you so much xx
Lots of very interesting and useful information Hopefully our babies will be good and well behaved
and be head down x but it's good to know what the options are just in case it did happen. Thank you so much xx
sarah_lou1981
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Susie I LOVE you being here!! Hope you don't mind us pestering you for information.
I have a question for you (sorry for everyone who's already heard this!).
I have GD and am due 6th January. I'm on 4 Metformin and two lots of insulin a day. At 32 week scan yesterday they said baby is in the 90th centile. They said they would 'probably' induce after Christmas. 39 weeks is 30th December.
Do the majority of GD mums get induced before 40 weeks?
They also haven't said much about what happens after baby is born. I've tried reading up online but don't trust Dr Google. I've read that I might need insulin during labour and that they'll test baby's bloods so many times after birth. Do they routinely keep people in or is there a possibility we can go home the same or next day?
Sorry, I know that wasn't just one question!!
Xx
I have a question for you (sorry for everyone who's already heard this!).
I have GD and am due 6th January. I'm on 4 Metformin and two lots of insulin a day. At 32 week scan yesterday they said baby is in the 90th centile. They said they would 'probably' induce after Christmas. 39 weeks is 30th December.
Do the majority of GD mums get induced before 40 weeks?
They also haven't said much about what happens after baby is born. I've tried reading up online but don't trust Dr Google. I've read that I might need insulin during labour and that they'll test baby's bloods so many times after birth. Do they routinely keep people in or is there a possibility we can go home the same or next day?
Sorry, I know that wasn't just one question!!
Xx
Dubchick81
Finally Pregnant!!
I know in my hospital they will only ever give a c section if absolutely necassary... The don't like to give c sections and have the lowest c section rate in Europe ATM... So I'm confident that if they know they can deliver baby safely without intervening, that's what they'll do..
Thank you so much for that post... xxx
Thank you so much for that post... xxx
Cai
has a thin girl inside!
Thank u so much for taking the time to answer. This time last week I would have said it was v red, sore and aggravated...now it is sore to touch, can have a shooting pain into my buttock but I've not looked at it since Friday (will look this aft after my shower.
Glad to know that yellow colour can be normal as I wasn't convinced and seeing as it all went wrong again I wasn't sure I'd been told correctly.
I'm still thinking I might go to my GP at the end of week and ask them to check - I'm just 'waiting' for another problem to crop up :-( xx
Susiew2001
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: Brands, Feeding, Nursery, Bathing, Everything!
No problem! Happy to help!
Sarah_lou, in answer to your question, yes all diabetic mums will be induced before 40 weeks. Typically 38-39 weeks. If and only if, your bloods sugars are perfect they might let you go to 40 weeks. Any longer and the incidence of stillbirth goes up I'm afraid.
As your GDM on insulin, they might put you on insulin, they might not. I know that's not v helpful but at my trust it depends on each mum. It depends how well your sugars are in labour.
They will monitor baby's blood sugar at least 4 times, before each feed (except the first) so you need to let them know when you're feeding baby! Some trusts observe for 24 hrs, others it's just 4 results, so if baby feeds every 2 hrs, you could be done and dusted in 8 and they MIGHT let you go, but I would be prepared to stop for a day or two.
With regard to baby being on 90th, don't panic, they can be out by 25%, generally they are looking for consistent growth and to check baby doesn't suddenly become very chubby very quickly.
How are your sugars? Xx
No problem! Happy to help!
Sarah_lou, in answer to your question, yes all diabetic mums will be induced before 40 weeks. Typically 38-39 weeks. If and only if, your bloods sugars are perfect they might let you go to 40 weeks. Any longer and the incidence of stillbirth goes up I'm afraid.
As your GDM on insulin, they might put you on insulin, they might not. I know that's not v helpful but at my trust it depends on each mum. It depends how well your sugars are in labour.
They will monitor baby's blood sugar at least 4 times, before each feed (except the first) so you need to let them know when you're feeding baby! Some trusts observe for 24 hrs, others it's just 4 results, so if baby feeds every 2 hrs, you could be done and dusted in 8 and they MIGHT let you go, but I would be prepared to stop for a day or two.
With regard to baby being on 90th, don't panic, they can be out by 25%, generally they are looking for consistent growth and to check baby doesn't suddenly become very chubby very quickly.
How are your sugars? Xx
Susiew2001
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Pregnancy and Baby Advice Thread: Brands, Feeding, Nursery, Bathing, Everything!
Cai, sounds like its on the mend, no harm in seeing the gp tho x
Cai, sounds like its on the mend, no harm in seeing the gp tho x
shenzi
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Quick question ladies, as most of you know I've been willing this little lady to start moving (I'm 19+3 today) last night I felt what felt like a tickle on my belly, about a minute later I felt the same thing and today I've felt it 3 times, it happens about 2 inches below belly button, could it finally be baby letting me know she's ok?? Or could it just be an itchy belly? :-/
sarah_lou1981
Back again!!
Thank you, that's fab.
I'll be 38 weeks on 23rd December so they said that they'd probably induce the week after. I'm glad that we may still be able to come home either same day or the day after. Fingers crossed it goes like that for me.
At the minute I'm on fast acting insulin with breakfast and tea and two Metformin morning and two evening. My sugars range from 6.0 to 7.8 after food which they say are fine. I'm also on slow acting insulin before bed as my fasting sugars were always 6. Something to 7. Something. So that's the only one that's too high at the minute. Xxx
PrincessPeach
Pregnant with Baby No 2!
How wonderful is it to have a midwife on here?! Susie, you'll have to start charging! lol xx
Susie, you'll have to start charging! lol xx
pjallen1982
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It could well be Hun. I never felt anything at that stage but midwife did say it could be that I did, but just didn't realise. I probably thought it was wind!! Mine felt a bit like fizzy bubbles in my tummy a bit like bubbles go up when you open a bottle of something fizzy x
