Re-starting for the final time, this is it!!!!

well had a good few days, back to eating no bread again. Had it for a couple of days and i think that satisfied my craving - keeping carbs lowish but not obsessing over them. Just mainly concentrating on the fat and cals for the next few weeks. Really need to see the scales move again this week. This morning i seem to be 1lb down - so hope i can keep this up :D

Got my christmas tree up :D couldnt wait any longer - i love christmas.
 
what do you mean you couldnt wait any longer. isnt all the christmas deco's supposed to go up on the 1st december...
 
Well done for getting refocused! I find as soon as it is cold I just need carb!!!! I know it doesn't keep me full but my body craves it... You're doing so well don't lose heart xx
 
i dont know when they are officially supposed to go up but the 1st day of december normally feels too early, would generally wait till second week of december.

i love my carbs a bit too much somedays, but i know i will never give them up/keep them really low forever so need to include them some days.

Thanks lisa, i do love bread but i feel so much better without it :D
 
Rachgleeson said:
i dont know when they are officially supposed to go up but the 1st day of december normally feels too early, would generally wait till second week of december.

i love my carbs a bit too much somedays, but i know i will never give them up/keep them really low forever so need to include them some days.

Thanks lisa, i do love bread but i feel so much better without it :D

Yeah me too, I tend to have bagels now tho, but the thought of a crusty French stick warm with butter on mmmmmmm. X

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We just never get them, I can't be trusted hehe x

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That's a good thing you don't buy them, but you should test yourself one day.... and just think how proud you will be to know you resisted!
 
i have got them the odd time Kes and have resisted so i know i can do it, but i just dont want the temptation there too often.

i actually have a big problem with my son and his food at the moment - he eats way too much and i am scared he will end up like me (and his dad) the "fat" gene is on both sides of the family. He loves his food alot and always complains of being hungry even when i think he couldnt be??? i try to give him healthy stuff but it really doesnt go down very well sometimes. I do think he eats more than a child of his age should - but i am scared to say anything as he is only a child he is 9, he is overweight and i really dont want him getting any worse and i know how cruel kids can be when they see someone overweight - i dont want him to get picked on because of it. His nanny and grandad here in ireland dont seem to see a problem with feeding a child so much - the day they were looking after him after school while we were at the hospital with Ruth, they gave him pie straight after school and then pizza for his tea, and they would also give him crisps and chocolate in the mean time. now my parents in England would be different - they know what a problem it is and can be its not just weight its diabetes too as its in my family. Nanny and grandad here (more so grandad) say oh it wont do him any harm. They are not the ones who have struggled to find him clothes in the kids section in stores and see his face when they dont fit :( My son goes and looks for clothes that have his age on and i have to try to explain to him nicely that he cant have them ones :( i know a lot of it is probably my fault too, ok no probably it is. But what do you do when a child is hungry like he is??!! Somedays i get really upset over this, thats another reason i am doing what i am so as he can see it!! Sorry for the big essay i just needed somewhere to say all this - and maybe get some advice!! I dont want to put him on the scales and say your going on a diet - i dont believe diets are for kids.
 
hun.. can i ask you to try and find a program called MEND in your area...

it will a: give you and him more idea on what to give him and what foods he should be eating. and B: he will meet other children his age, and have fun doing exercise..

i know its hard to bring up a subject like that with children but it is something as you say you are worried about and you dont want him to suffer in the long term, so you are doing the right thing by doing something about it now..

with his meals, give him foods that are low low cals, so you could possibly give him more.. for eg... salads during the summer lettuce is virtually nothing in cals (compared to pizza etc) and peppers, and chicken etc...
veg fill it with loads of veg so he doesnt come back saying he is hungry...

possibly dont (i know how hard it is) have the sweets/chocolates/crisps in the house.. make a family choice to be Healthy... not on a diet, just being healthy..

go to the supermarket and take him with you, and say well we are going to be healthy in our foods (the mend program recoment <5g of fat and sugar) and find foods that are like that *obviously fruits and veg are excluded in that* as you know there is loads of low fat things out there, but it is tough to find low sugar things, BUT its not impossible...

if you need any help fb msg me, and i can give you some more info on the MEND program and maybe post you some fact sheets they give out throughout the program...

Sorry for the long reply
 
Thanks for your reply, i dont think they do anything like mend here in ireland, i might look it up on the internet to see if i can find anything out about it. i do try and give him plenty of veg sometimes he will eat it, sometimes he wont. I think for things to change my hubby has to change too - he finds it hard to give up certain foods. but i am going to suggest for him to do it as a new year thing as it would also help me if we were all doing the same thing. I hate bringing the subject up with my hubby as i dont want to upset him - he seems happy as he is and i am too!! Its such a hard subject to talk about really. when the weather gets better i want us all to go out for bike rides together as i finally got one for my birthday - not had chance to use it yet with the weather lately. I think if i can get my son exercising more it will be a big help. He actually does enjoy salads in the summer, thats one thing about him. I dont normally keep anything like chocolate or crisps in the house at all - just buy it if its wanted!! Also after christmas going to bring in the rule of no chocolate/sweets during the week. it will be a rule for the whole family. I just dont know how to get his nanny and grandad to stick with what i say, i feel really angry with the sometimes but have always managed to bite my tongue somehow.
 
Rachgleeson said:
Thanks for your reply, i dont think they do anything like mend here in ireland, i might look it up on the internet to see if i can find anything out about it. i do try and give him plenty of veg sometimes he will eat it, sometimes he wont. I think for things to change my hubby has to change too - he finds it hard to give up certain foods. but i am going to suggest for him to do it as a new year thing as it would also help me if we were all doing the same thing. I hate bringing the subject up with my hubby as i dont want to upset him - he seems happy as he is and i am too!! Its such a hard subject to talk about really. when the weather gets better i want us all to go out for bike rides together as i finally got one for my birthday - not had chance to use it yet with the weather lately. I think if i can get my son exercising more it will be a big help. He actually does enjoy salads in the summer, thats one thing about him. I dont normally keep anything like chocolate or crisps in the house at all - just buy it if its wanted!! Also after christmas going to bring in the rule of no chocolate/sweets during the week. it will be a rule for the whole family. I just dont know how to get his nanny and grandad to stick with what i say, i feel really angry with the sometimes but have always managed to bite my tongue somehow.

Hey Hun, have you for a Nintendo wii or Xbox or anything, that's a fun way of exercising for kids without them even knowing.
X x
 
yes we have the wii - but you know boys and the games they like :sigh:

Was talking to my hubby about our son and he was learning to some medical person on the radio the other day and he said to never put a child on a diet of any sort as they will normally grow into themselves - just make them move more. Too be honest i know my son is never going to be slim as such he is going to be really tall and well built, i just want him to be healthy and feel healthy - which i dont think he does right now
 
It must be really hard as there is a thin line between having a sensible attitude to food and it going the other way, are you still going to the doctors? Perhaps the could give you some hints x x

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Im not sure theyve got MEND in Ireland Kes. If they did it would be great. You do need to make the effort to get him to be more physical Rachel. I know you were getting a bike but has he got one? could you not go on family rides? or roller skates/blades? You dont even have slimming world do you bc theyve got a great kids and teens programme but I think they can only join that with a parent at 11. but again they advocate moving more and teaching the children to make healthy changes rather than diet. he probably will grow into hi current weight if you can get him to do more physical activity. have a look at the NHS Change 4 life website, they have some good suggestions of family things to do. you need to provide proof to your in laws without your son knowing about how he is overweight and th how it does or will affect him. clothes wise/friends etc if he doesnt change his habits. I think you should weigh your son but make a point of weighing everyone at the same time. maybe height and weight and make a chart but leave it at that. then show his grandparents the figures and what he should be. point out to them that they are actually harming him not loving him as hes obviously not happy about it but at 9 he doesnt know how to choose the correct foods. maybe take him shopping with you and as you choose the foods youre going to eat, look a the nutrition lables and speak out loud or ask him to help you compare the labels and choose the healthiest because I resume he knows youre losing weight. that way you can say its for you, but if you include him in the families food choices you are educating him by showing him how to choose.

sorry for wafflling :)
 
I agree with what everyone else is saying.. And I agree with the idea of no sweets/ crisps etc during the week..

My kids have choc and sweets etc on Fridays and almost none during the week.,
Snacks when home from school. Apples, bananas, almonds, other nuts. Maybe 1-2 plain rich tea biscuits and loads of yogurt - carrots etc .. No bread and butter or bread and honey before. Dinner.. Dinner is the same for everyone., in our house - I cook one meal and that's it eat it or go hungry ., my oldest son has decided not to eat his dinner and a few times went to bed hungry.

Dinner is put on table TV off, they have 1 hour to eat their dinner, or until 7pm (apart from weekends) then if they have not finished its bath and bed time.. Ok I shout and make them eat if they are being silly..

What I put on plate, small spoon of mash or boiled potatoes, rice 1/4-1/2 cup, pasta about a 3/4 cup as 1/3 goes on floor and some left in plate..

Meat: stew etc one large spoon/ scoop, 1/2 steak, 1 chicken leg plus bit of breast meat (100gs ish)

Veg: carrots, broccoli - 3 pieces, cabbage small amount.. To try sometimes, only sometimes peas/ corn - maybe 1-2 mth. Peas/corn high in carbs and they all ready have carbs on plate

No pudding! Except in summer if they finish dinner quickly they can have ice cream

If still hungry more fruit or yogurt

Weekend: snacks - popcorn salted, fruit, 1 packet crisps - if they ask, 2 packets juice only, water or milk other times, 1 packet choc buttons, 2 biscuits - if asked, fruit bowl is full of apples, satsumas, bananas. Yogurts in the fridge - for fruit and yogurt they don't need to ask just help them selves, juice, and the treat box they have to ask.

My sister in laws ignore all my requests not to give my sons a whole packet of Jaffa cakes, choc buttons and juice every time .. I ask them to give almonds and fruit etc - but they just do what they like.. Very annoying!! I'm lucky my boys take after their dad (so far) and are not over weight., but I need to keep an eye on my 3 year old as he likes choc and sweets more than my oldest son.

School lunch; 1 juice packet, 1 yogurt tube, 1 ham and salad sandwich, or honey sandwich. 1/2 apple cut up, 5 almonds/ pecans 1 plain biscuit. - my sons just started football and I put a BIG apple in his bag with a of bottle water. I notice other mums give choc etc afterwards my son is proud of his really big apple lol

My sons like mcds - but only on weekends - I don't give chips/ potato shapes or nuggets for dinner. On the weekend I might give oven chips for lunch with salad bits (tomato, cucumber, red peppers) and an omelet
On the weekend we often get Chinese they have 1/2 portion of noodles with chicken each.
No pizza for the boys, and only sometimes for us.
No fish fingers, baked beans for breakfast with eggs and toast not as a veg/ carb for dinner
Breakfast: Cheerios/ cornflakes or cooked eggs and beans with toast.
I make homemade Haricot beans/ navy beans for dinner every few weeks with homemade cottage cheese and toast. Is more like a soup..

I force my boys to eat the meat and veg on their plates and if they want the mash/pasta/ rice eat it too but meat and veg is more important for growing boys.

Menu
Spaghetti Bol with rice or pasta and broccoli etc
Hairy dieters lamb tagine
Omelette with boiled potatoes and veg
Steak and mash plus veg
Chicken wraps with salad
Roast meal with trimming
Etc
No special kids meals - just good food, cooked fresh most days :).

What a lot of info - if it helps alright :) I know it's hard figuring out what to do, and then actually doing it. I was lucky and was given a book on feeding kids when I was pregnant - cant remember the book - will find it for you. Really helped me :) a lot of the mums I know cook 2 meals every night . Can't be assed with that!! Good food tastes nice - learn to eat it and like it or go hungry. :). Best bit of advise - hard to stick to, but I have even when my sons crying because he didn't eat his dinner in time - next time he ate his dinner and even now if I say eat it or there's nothing else he eats as he knows I mean what I say!
 
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