Refocus group - all welcome!

[Debbi8489]

I think you should have a look at 'Adore Yourself Slim' Spangly. I'm having a wee chuckle to myself about your hubby getting you flowers. I couldnt tell you the last time OH bought me flowers. I tried to nag him last week, but no joy lol. If I want flowers, I buy them myself!!

I know exactly what you are saying Bluesunflower...thats why I'm back on the packs now, before I do any more damage. I cant believe the difference I feel with this extra stone. I feel so incredibly fat, which is weird as I didnt feel that when I was losing weight. Hmmm, all in the mind indeed.

Oh and my team won!!!! Yay!!!

 

[juju_doll]

Isn't it funny how we see ourselves. I look at your stats and picture and think, look at that lovely slim woman, look how much weight she's lost. I wish I could be where she is.

You must be proud of what you've done, what you've achieved. This diet is hard. Dealing with food addicition is hard. It's a battle every day to not give in to it, but you've done so well so stray strong and keep going!

 

[Spanglymum]

Thanks, guys. I know. In the grand scheme of things I'm still significantly lighter than I was two years ago, which is fab really. Just being all perfectionist about it and not giving myself credit for what I HAVE achieved, because I'm not at my 'perfect' weight right now. Will have a look at the adore yourself slim stuff. Thanks for the recommendation.
I am willing to change! I am. I really am!

 

[Spanglymum]

Felt terrible this morning after another bad night but my wonderful husband talked a lot of sense to me and I feel a bit better now. Got a day of meetings today as I'm going to the book fair. I don't like this part of my job so I've been a bit on edge about it all weekend. I accepted a dinner invitation but I really wish I hadn't as I'd prefer to be home with my family ratter than talking business with people I've never met before. I'm trying to see the positives: ie it's nice to have been invited, we're being taken to a nice place etc etc, I will probably meet some lovely people, but it's difficult as business socialising isn't really my thing.

I have a big order coming from slim and save today. I hope it arrives at a time when my hubby is in the house so i don't have to go and fetch it from the depot later in the week! I want to refocus (again) and get these pounds shifted. I can do this! I'm hoping that four packs a day will be easier to stick to than Exante.

 

[Debbi8489]

Thanks, guys. I know. In the grand scheme of things I'm still significantly lighter than I was two years ago, which is fab really. Just being all perfectionist about it and not giving myself credit for what I HAVE achieved, because I'm not at my 'perfect' weight right now. Will have a look at the adore yourself slim stuff. Thanks for the recommendation.
I am willing to change! I am. I really am!

Morning all!

Spangly, I need to take you to task over the highlighted bit. Gee, thats hiding your light under a bushel! How much lighter are you than 2 years ago? Almost 5 stone! 29% of your bodyweight! You are 'normal' BMI wise. I know that you want to lose more weight and thats fine...but please give yourself a break and give yourself a huge pat on the back for what you have achieved! You have done FANTASTICALLY well, especially with everything else that you have on your plate.

I thought I would share this article:

The bitter truth about sugar - Telegraph

Very interesting stuff and some points that we can all relate to. He's spot on with the changes in the food industry. I went to Australia in 1990 and you just couldnt get the low fat options over there that we had in the UK. I'm sure its different now of course.

So...day 3 of the packs and I'm feeling good. I hopped on the scales this morning and I'm 7lbs done. Fan flipping tastic!! I've been at the gym this morning and done 2 hours of classes. My car is in for its MOT today, so I'm waiting on a phone call from the garage. Fingers crossed!! Plan for the rest of the day is to do my ironing and sort out my clothes. My wardrobe is still a mess with some size 20s stashed in there. I cant actually tell what I've got in there! I'd also like to put some of my big sizes on ebay. The nicer stuff, I mean. Must look into the best way of doing that.

Happy Monday everyone xx

 

[bluesunflower]

Lost it...one step forward, two steps back :break_diet:

Why do I try to comfort myself with food? It has never worked and never will, but minutes before I give in something in my brain snaps and I seem to forget that little fact.

Starting to wonder whether I'll ever get back to goal.

Sorry to bring this negativity into the thread - just don't know what to do anymore.

Hope you ladies are having a better afternoon! x

 

[Spanglymum]

Blue sunflower, don't apologise. That's what we're here for. I'm struggling too and am starting again tomorrow. You're totally not alone. If we didn't have issues with using food for comfort we would never have been here in the first place, would we?

And yes, thanks for the metaphorical slap around the face with a wet fish re my bushel, Debbi! You are so very right. I know. I know!!! I've achieved so much - more than I ever thought was possible. So what if I've gone off track a little bit the past few months? I will get back there. I'm learning... I will learn.

 

[Spanglymum]

That article is brilliant, Debbi. Thanks for posting.

 

[Spanglymum]

So how is everyone doing this wet and windy morning? I'm still feeling low but am determined to not let my feelings get in the way of my successful restart. I had loads of crooked thoughts on the drive in but am ignoring them as best I can. I know that in a few days' time I'll feel back in control again, which will be a more comfortable place to be.

It's my 11th wedding anniversary today. Because of the money issues I've caused with overspending this past year, hubby and I have done low-key presents. Have to say I LOVE the man!! He gave me some flower seeds (I've just got myself an allotment). Not having a big dinner out or anything - both because of money and because of being back on packs - but we don't need a splashy event to be able to celebrate (we did that last year! )

Pity I'm at the office today though. I've been home quite a bit more than usual recently and my youngest really didn't want me to go to work this morning. Usually I'm fine with it, but she was so sad and so patient (she's three), and so cute doing my hair for me (actually mussing it up all over the place as three year olds will, but still lovely). Sigh!!

So... going to knuckle down today and get through as much constructive work as I can so that by the time I head home I'm feeling I've made the most of the day!

Who's still doing packs? Who's back on track? Or wobbling?

WE CAN DO THIS!!!

(oh and I will update my ticker tomorrow... daresay I've backslid a few pounds in the past week... )

 

[Debbi8489]

Hi folks

Well, not wet and windy here for a nice change! Its seems to be everywhere else!!

Bluesunflower - OK, line drawn for you. Have you been doing any extra reading? Just trying to think what would help you? Ha! Can you tell I'm a rescuer as well as a people pleaser?

Spangly - glad to hear that you are a more chirpy today. Happy annniversary!! I love your present.

So day 4 for me, still not in ketosis yet and feeling a hungry still. I've had all my packs today. Actually, thats not strictly true. I think I have had 3 and a half packs. I made up a shake at work, but the lid wasnt on properly. So I lost half of it. It was a chocolate one too. Looked like I had a dirty protest. Never mind, and my volunteers were so lovely and helped me to clean up! I wonder if I should have another pack? I have a couple spare.

I'm thinking about heading for a bath. I know its early ish, but I'm really tired. I was very cold last night and had to get up and get the fleece out for the bed. I really should have known better than to put it away this early.

So bath with my new Radio Times. Goodness my life is just rock and roll, isnt it

 

[juju_doll]

I know how you feel. I'm in thermals, jumper, socks, with heating up full and the fire on. Happy April! I'm on day 5 today, getting better. The sugar/carb craziness has stopped and I'm back in ketosis. One day at a time, and I have a bit of a plan for getting rid of the last part of my excess weight.

 

[Debbi8489]

I meant to say earlier Juju...you'll break through that 40 BMI this week. Yay!!

 

[juju_doll]

I'm not sure, I put some more on before I started, but I think I'll have lost about 3, would be lovely to just be obese though! Whoop! Wish I was a bit taller. At 5ft 2 I have to be about 8 stone to be normal .... Never going to happen!

 

[Spanglymum]

Did packs all day yesterday then got in the car to drive home, opened my temptations box and munched my way through loads of the contents. Got home and opened some cava 'because it's our anniversary' and then had more snacks.

I feel scarily out of control and I really don't like it. I've never been a massive binge eater before - used to mainly eat too big portions of everything, but healthy food mainly. Am really worried by this behaviour.

First steps. The box was a cool theory but isn't working as the contents just speak to me all the time!! Will bin the contents this morning.

Will move the wine rack out of the dining room so I don't see it as often.

Back on packs and focusing on water water water for the next few days.

On a more positive note, DH and I had a great chat last night about getting our finances back on track. I've been trying (and failing) to cope on my own for too long and it feels good to share the burden and think of solutions together.

 

[Debbi8489]

Oh dear Spangly, I'm not sure what to suggest. Why did you have the temptation box in the car? I'm not sure that would be a good idea for me. I dont think I could cope. I dont need anymore challenges! Do you need a wine rack in the house? Do you have a garage you could store it in? Or elsewhere?

Good news that you and hubby have had a good chat about money. The LL is an expensive thing.

Well, Day 5 and I still dont think that the keto fairy has been. I'm still hungry, but coping with lots of water. I have BodyCombat tonight at 8. That'll keep me out of mischief. I'm tempted to watch The Apprentice when I get back, but I might just have a bath instead. I'm feeling extremely tired. Dont know if that is coming off the carbs or just because its been very mad at work and we're a bit stretched? Hmmm.

 

[rosieposie]

Hi, well I'm back
Well done to those persisting with getting into ketosis and starting on LLT.

Sorry Spangly you are struggling so. I know I couldn't do the temptation box, but well done for trying. Another lesson learnt for you, so congratulate yourself on having a go at it.
Try not to be too worried about the binge, you can't eat healthily at the moment and your body is just reacting probably against this as is your mind.
Hang in there honey and just keep going you are doing well in that you are keeping on trying. You will feel better hopefully once your body gets rid of rubbish from the binge and Ketosis is waiting for you.
Lovely that you've been able to talk to your DH about your finances and now feel less on your own over it all.

Sorry I've been missing but I've been trying to decide what to do and did not want to post when i was all over the place in my mind.
I eat off plan Friday to Monday intending to do healthy eating, as I just had to do something about IBS pain and constipation and I have discussed with LLC and she suggested Lite as I think I just might need more fibre even though I've been taking psyllium husks every day and have now added in Golden Linseed (though again not sure my digestive system can cope with these).
Lost it completely by Monday and had a major binge with all sorts of carbs. Think this is sugar addiction kicking in.

I have been thinking that my body for some reason now cannot cope with a VLCD. I've just felt so unwell this time, surge of energy only lasted a couple of weeks and I've felt tired and in pain.

Well I've decided to have another try at Total and see how things go now IBS has settled down. If pain starts again I guess I'll have to try Lite but reluctant to do this as not sure how much control I can manage at the moment.
I am on day 2 of Total again and waiting to get back into ketosis. feeling ok at moment though did think of getting something to eat on way home as I know of course I could if i did Lite. But I am going to definitely try to stick with it for a while.
So keep your fingers crossed for me please.

 

[bluesunflower]

So sorry to hear about your struggles ladies. I can totally emphathize; meant to start again yesterday but didn't and just spiralled out of control once again, binging on all the wrong foods and in massive quantities. This is literally taking over my whole life now and affecting every aspect - work, social life, it's just an obsession. I have gone to OA meetings in the past, but never really felt 100% comfortable, so have been thinking of broaching the subject with the GP and see what he says. Maybe some counselling would be helpful.

Spangly, sorry to hear the box project didn't work; as rosieposie said, it's certainly an experience to learn something from, so don't beat youself up over it.

Debbi, well done for sticking it out for so long; the keto fairy must be around the corner!! Especially since exercise helps depleting glycogen stores even more quickly.

Dreading the rest of the week and weekend, as I will have friends over until next week (who don't know anything about the diet) and I just know that we'll be out eating all the time and I feel so miserable and bloated atm that I just want to never eat again. Such a pity, because I was actually really looking forward to seeing and spending time with them, but the whole food situation is just so out of control. Lately I've also been terribly ashamed of seeing friends/family I haven't seen in a while, because last time they saw me I was considerably thinner. No one talks about the elephant in the room (me, literally ), bit they must be thinking it.

Stay strong and have a great evening :gen126:

 

[Spanglymum]

Oh dear. What are we all like? Big hugs all round I think!

I'm a numpty for having the box in the car. I know I know! I think I must have done it deliberately so I would be tempted and could have the 'naughty' foods. Ah well. Doh!!

As long as I keep learning I don't mind too much. And I am learning I think... I hope so...

Rosie, I'm sorry to hear about your IBS. I have it too and being on LL packs I struggled with constipation. I found psyllium husks were the only thing that helped. Strangely I don't have this problem with slim n save - if anything it goes to the other extreme (TMI sorry!).

Had a great day at work today, and saw an ex colleague this evening who I haven't in ages, which was lovely. Am trying to do a gratitude journal and set positive intentions for the day... And remind myself of all the good stuff going on in my life. It's simple but it does help!

 

[rosieposie]

Hi Spangly
you're right we do all need those hugs.
Do you think this whatever it is is catching because a lot of us seem to be struggling at the moment.

I can't understand if it is IBS why I'm like this this time round, I had no real problem before as long as avoided the bars.Also pain has never been stuck in one plce like it was this time for so long. So just don't know what's going on.
Now I'm feeling ok but I just have such cravings going on at the moment.
Oh well hope I make it to tomorrow and then another day after that. I feel as if I haven't really learnt anything and the future just holds the same cycle as before of yo yoing. Why doesn't the feeling of success and pleasure at losing 2 stone so far stay with me when I think of wanting to eat?

what is a gratitude journal please?

 

[juju_doll]

Yay, no longer morbidly obese! I think it's a case of one day at a time at the moment. If i feel like bingeing I have been having a bit of cold chicken and it has been working so far. I've also broken down my weight loss in to smaller targets. My first aim is to lose a stone and a half on total, then i'm going to lose a stone on light, then go lose a stone on atkins style. I feel i need to re-introduce the food slowly and try and cope without bingeing.

Big hugs to all, this is such a struggle and we are all food addicts. xx